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Topic: Final Fantasy VII NES Project (Read 2 times)
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vivify93
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« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2011, 01:57:28 pm » |
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Looking at her now, I'm not sure my Aerith is doable period. I altered the staff and was second-guessing myself about her several times still.  The first 2/3 of the image is comparing my "hybrid Aerith" to Chpexo's Aerith. I divided her into sections in the last 1/3 of the image. As you can see, she would theoretically take up three horizontal 8x8 tiles, unlike both Chpexo's and the original (?). The next problem is that of color: up top she uses only two palettes (Brown, peach), then three (Brown, red, peach) in the middle, then a giant four (Brown, red, peach, white) at the end. However, I've also "dissected" Chpexo's Aerith, and she appears to use the same exact colors in the same exact places--horizontally speaking. If anyone who has more knowledge on this than I do can comment, I would be extremely appreciative. |
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Chpexo
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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2011, 02:49:42 pm » |
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 White can't be with red. Sorry, it had nothing to do with 5 colors. It's fixed now EDIT: Here's the Cloud mugshot:  |
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Lugia2009
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« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2011, 03:54:54 pm » |
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Thanks for the mugshot and Aerith sprite, I'll do them tomorrow though and quit for today.
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vivify93
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« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2011, 04:22:26 pm » |
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White can't be with red. Sorry, it had nothing to do with 5 colors. It's fixed now Alright, thank you very much.  That's what I was thinking, actually--either the white couldn't be with red or peach couldn't be with white. I clearly need to study more in this spriting thing... I'm here if more extremely amateur help is needed. :laugh: |
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Chpexo
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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2011, 04:28:51 pm » |
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Here's Aeris' mugshot.  Edit:Here's Sephiroth's mugshot.  Also don't make Sephiroth the size of the protagonists. Enemies for all 2-D Final Fantasys have been bigger than the protagonists, don't change it, fans wouldn't like it. You should also change Tifa's mugshot color to brown. Can you give us a beta patch so it would be easier to critique? |
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« Last Edit: April 19, 2011, 08:58:01 pm by Chpexo »
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Lugia2009
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« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2011, 08:55:17 am » |
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You should also change Tifa's mugshot color to brown.
I can't, if I change the code, it will change all other mugshots. I would have to set the code to all 0F in order to have a brown mugshot for Tifa, which I'm pretty sure it will scramble Cloud's mugshot and a few others and make other mugshots completely blank. It's too bad they all share the same code. And the number you set it to affects each mugshot differently. Here's the mugshots I'm using (except for Cloud, Tifa, and Cait Sith), I got them from the Project FF7 NES Upgrade board.  The colors on some of mine look differently though. Can you give us a beta patch so it would be easier to critique? I can do that, I just want to touch up Tifa and Barret's battle sprites first. Which site should I use to post the patch on? Also, do you want my save states for FCEUX so you can jump around the different areas of the game?
April 20, 2011, 10:04:05 am - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
Some areas like wall market, I'm still working on. And many others, I did not change the colors for the areas yet. Also, some characters may look very odd. Like Hojo who, for whatever reason, shares part of his sprite with Barrett. But I learned how to fix things like that now.
April 20, 2011, 11:04:00 am - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
I put the Patch on Rapidshare. Here's the link: https://rapidshare.com/files/458368903/Final_Fantasy_VII_Graphics_hack.rarI also included the save states for FCEUX. There's about 120 save states, so you can go to every area of the game. Enjoy :thumbsup:
April 20, 2011, 11:34:51 am - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
Also I forgot to mention, on the save states you may have to leave an area and come back or open and close the menu. I made the some of the save states before I made the graphic changes, so the graphics when you open up a save state may not be what the graphics actually look like. |
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« Last Edit: April 20, 2011, 11:34:53 am by Lugia2009 »
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Chpexo
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« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2011, 12:08:14 pm » |
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Ok, I'll do my edits and send 'em back to you.
BTW, what translation patch are you using?
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betakiller
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« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2011, 01:23:00 pm » |
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Please reupload it on Megaupload. I have a little problem with Rapidshare. |
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Chpexo
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« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2011, 01:27:05 pm » |
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Mediafire works the best for me.
@Lugia2009
If you edited out the green for Tifa's mugshot you can make her mugshot brown.
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« Last Edit: April 20, 2011, 02:12:12 pm by Chpexo »
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vivify93
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« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2011, 03:19:23 pm » |
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...Barret's gonna need a new mugshot, definitely. And Marlene needs her eyes edited--right now it looks like one eye is massively larger than the other.
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Lugia2009
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« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2011, 03:19:54 pm » |
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BTW, what translation patch are you using? I think it's the one Lindblum made. Please reupload it on Megaupload. I have a little problem with Rapidshare. Mediafire works the best for me. Okay, I'll put it on both. Here's the link for Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GTW0UVG2And here's the link for Mediafire: http://www.mediafire.com/?aadi92mzrnrmzw8If you edited out the green for Tifa's mugshot you can make her mugshot brown. Changing the color for the menu is easy, but for the maps is a little harder. I guess what I could do is switch out the blue used for character sprites and mugshots for brown on every area where Tifa will be making an appearance. Marlene needs her eyes edited--right now it looks like one eye is massively larger than the other.
Okay, that shouldn't be too hard
April 20, 2011, 03:29:03 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
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« Last Edit: April 20, 2011, 03:29:52 pm by Lugia2009 »
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Chpexo
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« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2011, 04:18:02 pm » |
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Changing the color for the menu is easy, but for the maps is a little harder.
I guess what I could do is switch out the blue used for character sprites and mugshots for brown on every area where Tifa will be making an appearance. Don't be cheap! Do it the professional way and change the mugshot code. Also Cait Sith and Cloud shares the blue palette as well. |
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Lugia2009
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« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2011, 04:53:51 pm » |
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Here's what I found out so far about the mugshot code and how it affects each mugshot.
Mugshot color code found at offset 0x019810 Original code(00 00 01 01 00 00 01 01 02 02 03 03 02 02 03 03)
I will see What each number does and what color number it controls
to do this I will change the entire code to 00, then change it all to 01, and so on...
The color it sets refers to the color sets in the bottom row of the PPU viewer
In the code, the first four numbers alter the top four in the 16 square mugshot.
next four numbers alter the 2nd row of tiles
next four numbers alter the 3rd row of tiles
last four numbers alter the 4th row of tiles
Cloud's mugshot
00 sets first color
01 sets first color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets second color
04 scrambles mugshot
05 scrambles mugshot
06 makes mugshot blank
(I'm going to stop there)
Barret's mugshot
00 sets fourth color
01 sets fourth color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets fourth color
04 sets second color
05 sets fourth color
06 sets fourth color
07 sets second color
08 sets first color
09 sets first color
0A sets first color
0B sets second color
(I'm going to stop there)
Tifa's mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets second color
02 sets second color
03 sets third color
04 sets first color
05 sets first color
06 sets first color
07 sets second color
08 sets third color
09 sets first color
0A sets fourth color
0B sets third color
0C sets first color
0D sets first color
0E sets first color
0F sets fourth color
(I'm going to stop there)
Aerith's mugshot
00 sets fourth color
01 sets second color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets second color
04 sets third color
05 sets first color
06 makes mugshot blank
07 makes mugshot blank
(I'm going to stop there)
Red XIII
00 sets fourth color
01 sets fourth color
02 same as above
03 same as above
04 makes mugshot blank
05 sets fourth color
06 sets fourth color
(I'm going to stop there)
Cait Sith's mugshot
00 sets second color
01 same as above
02 same as above
03 same as above
04 sets first color
05 same as above
06 same as above
07 same as above
08 same as above
09 makes mugshot blank
(I'm going to stop there)
Cid's mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets second color
02 sets third color
03 sets fourth color
04 makes mugshot blank
05 same as above
06 same as above
07 same as above
08 same as above
09 scrambles mugshot
0A makes mugshot blank
(I'm going to stop there)
Biggs' mugshot
00 sets third color
01 sets thrid color
02 sets first color
03 sets first color
04 makes mugshot blank
05 makes mugshot blank
(I'm going to stop there)
Jessie's mugshot
00 sets fourth color
01 sets fourth color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets fourth color
04 sets fourth color
05 makes mugshot blank
(I'm going to stop there)
Wedge's mugshot
00 sets fourth color
01 sets fourth color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets fourth color
04 sets fourth color
05 sets fourth color
(I'm going to stop there)
Marlene's mugshot
00 sets fourth color
01 sets fourth color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets fourth color
04 scrambles mugshot
05 scrambles mugshot
(I'm going to stop there)
Sephiroth's mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets second color
02 sets second color
03 sets fourth color
04 scrambles mugshot
05 scrambles mugshot
06 scrambles mugshot
(I'm going to stop there)
Pres. Shinra's mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets second color
02 sets third color
03 sets third color
04 sets first color
05 sets first color
06 sets first color
07 sets first color
08 makes mugshot blank
(I'm going to stop there)
Rufus' mugshot
00 sets third color
01 sets fourth color
02 sets second color
03 sets first color
04 sets third color
05 sets second color
06 sets fourth color
07 sets third color
08 makes mugshot blank
(I'm going to stop there)
Heidegger's Mugshot
00 sets first color
01 sets first color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets fourth color
04 sets fourth color
05 sets third color
06 sets first color
07 sets first color
(I'm going to stop there)
palmer's Mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets second color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets first color
04 makes mugshot blank
(I'm going to stop there)
Hojo's mugshot
00 Sets fourth color
01 sets fourth color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets second color
04 sets first color
05 sets first color
06 makes mugshot blank
07 sets first color
(I'm going to stop there)
reeve's mugshot
00 sets fourth color
01 sets first color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets second color
04
05
06
07 makes mugshot blank
(I'm going to stop there)
Tsung's mugshot
00 sets first color
01 sets first color
02 sets third color
03 sets third color
04
05
06
07
(I'm going to stop there)
reno's mugshot
00 sets first color
01 sets first color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets fourth color
04
05
06
rude's mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets second color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets fourth color
04
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06
Elena's mugshot
00 sets fourth color
01 sets fourth color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets third color
04
05
06
Johnny's mugshot
00 sets fourth color
01 sets fourth color
02 sets third color
03 sets second color
04
05
06
0B makes mugshot blank
(I'm going to stop there)
mayor domino's mugshot
00 sets fourth color
01 sets fourth color
02 sets second color
03 sets second color
04
05
06
Hart's mugshot
00 sets third color
01 sets third color
02 sets third color
03 sets first color
Dyne's mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets second color
02 sets third color
03 sets third color
captain's mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets second color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets fourth color
Soldier's mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets second color
02 sets third color
03 sets third color
04 sets fourth color
05 makes mugshot blank
Doorman's mugshot
00 sets first color
01 sets first color
02 sets first color
03 sets first color
Pricsilla's mugshot
00 sets first color
01 sets second color
02 sets first color
03 sets first color
Don's mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets second color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets fourth color
Elmyra's mugshot
00 sets fourth color
01 sets fourth color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets fourth color
Dio's mugshot
00 sets fourth color
01 sets third color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets third color
Mr. Coates' mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets second color
02 sets fourth color
03 sets fourth color
Bugenhagen's mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets second color
02 sets third color
03 sets third color
Intercom's mugshot
00 sets second color
01 sets first color
02 sets second color
03 sets second color
Numbers that can't be used 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B
There may be more
For each area I could rearange the colors and set the colors for each character's sprite in the hex editor so it would make sense.
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Chpexo
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« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2011, 04:57:07 pm » |
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Then you would have to recode the sprite palettes.
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« Last Edit: April 20, 2011, 05:32:00 pm by Chpexo »
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Lugia2009
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« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2011, 04:59:03 pm » |
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How do I do that?
April 20, 2011, 05:01:54 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
Oh! wait. Are you talking about the mugshots or the character sprites, If your talking about the character sprites, then I know how to do that.
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