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Topic: Final Fantasy VII NES Project (Read 5 times)
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Jonesy47
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« Reply #225 on: August 22, 2011, 01:14:34 pm » |
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Sooooo...there's no ending and no materia?
I thought they fit almost everything into this game (at least, storyline wise), minus Vincent and Yuffie and some other things that arent exactly vital to the plot (ie, the weapons, etc.).
If that's the case, then what was the point of the sephiroth one-winged angel art somebody submitted a few pages back?
Just in case you ever finish the game?
If the original rom isnt the full game, how far does it go?
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Lugia2009
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« Reply #226 on: August 22, 2011, 01:58:59 pm » |
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Sooooo...there's no ending and no materia?
I thought they fit almost everything into this game (at least, storyline wise), minus Vincent and Yuffie and some other things that arent exactly vital to the plot (ie, the weapons, etc.).
If that's the case, then what was the point of the sephiroth one-winged angel art somebody submitted a few pages back?
Just in case you ever finish the game?
If the original rom isnt the full game, how far does it go? There is an ending, what Chpexo meant by it being just half of the original game, is that areas were cut out. Like Wutai, the Huge Materia, the Weapons (There is a mention of them at the end though), which also means that the downfall of Rufus and Shinra is also cut. The game still has an ending that wraps everything up at the end. Most of the storyline is still present. There also is Materia, just not as much as in the original game. Here's a wikipedia site with information about the game http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII_%28Famicom%29 |
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« Last Edit: August 22, 2011, 02:15:40 pm by Lugia2009 »
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« Reply #227 on: August 23, 2011, 01:41:59 pm » |
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That is why I would appreciate code improvements,additional music and a well commented disassembly :thumbsup:
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Jonesy47
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« Reply #228 on: August 23, 2011, 02:45:19 pm » |
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Ok, so I've played the patch from beginning to the point where everyones leaving the slums to blow up the second reactor.
PROS
The Music! Good Job! I mean, its slightly off from the original but definitely recognizable and slightly off, converting from psx to nes is amazing!
The Maps! At least up until the point im at, the game has a VERY strong ff7 feel, even more than I got from the screenshots.
Clouds and Barret's Avatars. They look almost identical to their psx counterparts.
Cloud and Barret's battle sprites/animations (tho I wish barrets blast shot straight instead of slightly upwards)
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For me (and i know its my emulator) the title screen is corrupted, some enemies appear corrupted until you try to use an item or magic, then the enemies look normal, and, at the clothing store, buy, sell and gil are corrupted also. I know its my emu because I tried a different version (but of the same emu, surprisingly) and the title screen shows up right.
I, at at least the point I am at in the game, cannot access the item screen, the equip screen, or the save screen. They all lead to the status screen. I dont mind not having access to the save screen, what with save states and what not, but not having the ability to equip items/weapons and armor is a big downfall.
Tifa and Marlene's Avatars. Not up to snuff with the rest. I can understand marlene since she has no model to go off of, but Tifa's should look GOOD.
I'm not the biggest fan of the battle dialogue (like "MISS" or the hp taken off) being red. It would look closer to source material if it was white with black border, or at least white.
Other than the cons, Keep up the good work, guys! This seems truly special. Id played the lindblum version a tad before, and already, the changes you have made make it 100% more enjoyable.
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Lugia2009
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« Reply #229 on: August 23, 2011, 03:47:58 pm » |
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The Music! Good Job! I mean, its slightly off from the original but definitely recognizable and slightly off, converting from psx to nes is amazing Thanks  , the music wasn't easy, and to fit more songs on the rom I had to shorten most songs and leave out the noise channel. If the rom ever gets expanded, I'll have more freedom to make the songs longer and better. The Maps! At least up until the point im at, the game has a VERY strong ff7 feel, even more than I got from the screenshots. I still have a ways to go on the maps, many areas near the beginning of the game still need work like the building insides. For me (and i know its my emulator) the title screen is corrupted, some enemies appear corrupted until you try to use an item or magic, then the enemies look normal, and, at the clothing store, buy, sell and gil are corrupted also. I know its my emu because I tried a different version (but of the same emu, surprisingly) and the title screen shows up right. Yeah, I noticed some of the enemies appear corrupted too, I don't know how to fix it. And same for the shops. The title screen on mine is fine though. I, at at least the point I am at in the game, cannot access the item screen, the equip screen, or the save screen. They all lead to the status screen. I dont mind not having access to the save screen, what with save states and what not, but not having the ability to equip items/weapons and armor is a big downfall I don't know how to fix this either. But since the stores all sell the same things, and you rarely need to go into the menu, it's not really that much of a bother. I would like to fix it though. Try the menu in every area you go to, some areas do work. I think the areas that mostly have the problems are the areas with shops. I guess they are connected somehow. Tifa and Marlene's Avatars. Not up to snuff with the rest. I can understand marlene since she has no model to go off of, but Tifa's should look GOOD. When I'm done with the maps, I'm going to go over the character and NPC sprites that need work, I found a program that lets me look at the character models of the PC version of FF7. I already did some new sprites for some characters, I'm going to try to get it so that every NPC will look different (not just color-wise). Oh, and the area where you climb the wire to get to the Shinra building is messed up. When you go to use the battery, the game may make a high pitched sound, or the music will mess up. What I do is go to the spot where you insert the battery, hold A, and when the music gets high pitched go into the menu and use the battery. It may take a few tries, but it should work. I don't know how to fix this either.
August 23, 2011, 08:54:33 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
I found out how to change a character's sprite during events. It's 2A xx xx. the second byte chooses the character to change and the third byte changes who to change the character to. So I changed the scene where Cloud dresses up like a woman. And a few scenes following that. Now Aerith gets a new look too. I'm going to see if I can give Tifa a new look too.
August 28, 2011, 03:43:15 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
I managed to finish the bottom floor of Aerith's house and I made a new sprite for Aerith's mom:  |
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« Last Edit: August 28, 2011, 03:43:15 pm by Lugia2009 »
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8-bit Warrior
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« Reply #230 on: September 03, 2011, 08:35:27 pm » |
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This is..pretty epic, actually. For me, the main interest is that some crazy nutjobs actually made a pirated version of this for NES, and now the community is going to make it an actual legit game. Though, I think true success will depend on the ROM rebuilding efforts....
Just wanted to voice my support/interest!
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Spooniest
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« Reply #231 on: September 04, 2011, 02:44:19 am » |
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I have a request. If you feel like it and have the time someday, I'd like for Tifa and Aerith's respective battle sprites' eyes to look like this (and be recolored to their appropriate colors, assuming it's possible with the NES's pallette).  If it's at all possible. Women have different looking eyes in the old Final Fantasy games. |
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« Last Edit: September 04, 2011, 02:49:23 am by Spooniest »
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« Reply #233 on: September 07, 2011, 04:43:26 am » |
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should we find a NES homebrew tutorial or sample code?
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Lugia2009
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« Reply #234 on: September 07, 2011, 11:20:38 am » |
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I have a request.
If you feel like it and have the time someday, I'd like for Tifa and Aerith's respective battle sprites' eyes to look like this (and be recolored to their appropriate colors, assuming it's possible with the NES's pallette).
If it's at all possible. Women have different looking eyes in the old Final Fantasy games. Okay, I changed Tifa's eyes to arc down to the right. Also I changed Tifa's shoes to red and Aerith's dress to peach. Sorry for the late reply, my internet's been down. Here's some more changes I made: Tifa and Marlene have new sprites I fixed the menu for the weapon shop. All menus that display how much money you have I changed from G to Gil I changed the event where you need the battery to climb the plate, It's not the way it originally was, but it is the best solution I could come up with. Once I get done the map I'm working on, I'll upload a patch so you can see it. And I finished the maps for Sector 6 and am partially done the map for the area leading to wall market:  Top floor of Aerith's house  Weapon shop  Magic shop  Armor shop  Inn  Here's what I have so far for the area leading to wall market |
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« Last Edit: September 07, 2011, 05:37:51 pm by Lugia2009 »
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Jonesy47
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« Reply #235 on: September 07, 2011, 09:27:38 pm » |
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Keep it up! This gets me so pumped, each time I see a new set of maps!!! :thumbsup:
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SteveMartin
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« Reply #236 on: September 10, 2011, 05:07:37 am » |
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I had no idea this project was going as far as adding new areas the original pirate missed, and new music? I'll be impressed if you guys actually get the whole game in there  Next thing you need to do is add cut scenes that act as stand ins for CGI cinemas  |
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Lugia2009
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« Reply #237 on: September 10, 2011, 03:29:34 pm » |
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Next thing you need to do is add cut scenes that act as stand ins for CGI cinemas I thought about that. On the parts where CGI cinemas would play I thought of having the character teleport to a blank screen. Have cloud's sprite blank so it only takes one tile to make it which could also be shared by the black tile that would make up the majority of the screen. Then use the graphics for the text box for the border of the picture that will stand in as the CGI. The image would only be able to fit a portion of the screen (Maybe a third). That way there would be at least 150 tiles left to make the image. And it shouldn't take up to much space (maybe 1-4 maps per cutscene). Unfortunately I don't know enough about how this game works to add a new map. And I don't know how to work the 05 opcode which teleports the character to a new map. Who knows though, I may learn enough about this rom to do that. |
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« Reply #238 on: September 10, 2011, 04:32:20 pm » |
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Dont use up the ROM space with cut scenes,just add screens for the ending and mini game like stuff,
or would you like to write "MarioCloud you didn't save the princess but the world"?
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Lugia2009
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« Reply #239 on: September 10, 2011, 04:42:02 pm » |
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Dont use up the ROM space with cut scenes,just add screens for the ending and mini game like stuff,
or would you like to write "MarioCloud you didn't save the princess but the world"? I don't mean like for all cut scenes, just important ones like Aerith's death and the ending.
September 10, 2011, 05:00:27 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
I finished the map:  Here's the new patch with the save state for the wire climbing event: http://www.mediafire.com/?8om6m8d8p74hn5m
September 16, 2011, 09:31:26 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)
The rest of wall market is done:  Bar  Dress Shop  Weapon Shop  Inn and Item Shop |
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« Last Edit: September 16, 2011, 09:31:26 pm by Lugia2009 »
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