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Topic: Request for translation patch for Ys The Oath in Felghana (Read 3952 times)
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antisaviour
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« on: July 17, 2007, 04:56:55 am » |
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Hi, I am currently looking for translation patch for the PC game named "Ys The Oath in Felghana". Is there anyone that can help me with this? Thanks!
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ildser
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2007, 06:41:22 am » |
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If what you are asking is where to get the leaked beta, then don't xP Methinks NightWolve and Deuce wouldn't exactly like that (actually Deuce posts here, he might want to elaborate on that because I don't know that much about it so I wouldn't be able to give a good explanation), so be patient and the final version will someday be released to the public. In the meantime, why not play it in japanese and use a walkthrough? I don't know if there is one on gamefaqs (I haven't checked) but failing that you could always try the Ancient Land of Ys forums. It's not like the game has a lot of menus in Japanese, so it should be really easy to play. Edit: Link removed per request |
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« Last Edit: July 19, 2007, 02:25:38 pm by KaioShin »
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byuu
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2007, 10:13:22 am » |
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I would stay far away from those patches if I were you. The future will be much, much different; all patches will be radically redesigned to deal with certain issues and specific individuals ... If I continue with the Ys VI project, it will also go through an early access donation period then go freeware. However, that will be the last freebie. "Ys Origins," is a possibilty, but it will be shareware from the get-go which will be enforced without mercy against those that would try their luck to fuck with it. So, he wants donations now, and from now on, he's going to sell his translations, and add detections that most likely damage your PC if it thinks you've modified it in some way. Don't know about you, but the idea of hosting and/or using (shareware) patches with hidden malware that can damage your PC doesn't sound cool to me. |
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tz
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2007, 10:16:36 am » |
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I would stay far away from those patches if I were you. The future will be much, much different; all patches will be radically redesigned to deal with certain issues and specific individuals ... If I continue with the Ys VI project, it will also go through an early access donation period then go freeware. However, that will be the last freebie. "Ys Origins," is a possibilty, but it will be shareware from the get-go which will be enforced without mercy against those that would try their luck to fuck with it. So, he wants donations now, and from now on, he's going to sell his translations, and add detections that most likely damage your PC if it thinks you've modified it in some way. Don't know about you, but the idea of hosting and/or using (shareware) patches with hidden malware that can damage your PC doesn't sound cool to me. Agreed 100%. I think Deuce does fantastic work, but I couldn't be more against what Nightwolve is trying to do. Kind of stinks that Deuce appears to be at Nightwolve's mercy (this is just an outsider's point of view, of course). I hope he gets some of the money from those donations, at least. I'm a huge Ys fan, but I'd rather play them in Japanese than support this guy. |
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satsu
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2007, 11:33:30 am » |
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I hope he gets some of the money from those donations, at least.
I don't. Not just because of the immorality of demanding money for an illegal translation and the problems it causes, or because the system he's proposing is completely ridiculous, but mainly because he comes off as a massive insecure prick. vvv I was talking about NightWolve. I don't have anything negative to say about Deuce. vvv |
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« Last Edit: July 17, 2007, 12:07:01 pm by sa♥tsu »
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tz
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2007, 11:48:59 am » |
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I hope he gets some of the money from those donations, at least.
I don't. Not just because of the immorality of demanding money for an illegal translation and the problems it causes, or because the system he's proposing is completely ridiculous, but mainly because he comes off as a massive insecure prick. Who are we talking about, here? It seems to me that the one proposing all of this stuff is Nightwolve, the hacker. I didn't think Deuce had anything to do with any of that. Of course it is immoral to demand money for these things, but what I was saying is: people are donating, anyway, so I hope that Deuce gets some of it, for his fantastic work. If you are, indeed, talking about Deuce, then I can't comment since I've never spoken with him. This whole thing is just incredible, though. Demanding money for the patch is one thing, but embedding malware in the patch is ridiculous. |
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KaioShin
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2007, 11:51:00 am » |
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This topic has been beaten to death on Nightwolve's site, on various Falcom sites and several warez sites... I don't think we need to add another chapter to that discussion here.
The patch isn't available yet, enough said.
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Piotyr
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2007, 12:00:46 pm » |
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I am very glad everyone here shares my feelings on this subject. Also believe me when I say 4chan and other places of ill repute will gladly take the challenge of breaking night wolfs foul protections. Also where does it say hes putting melware? I thought he was just putting stuff to stop people from modding his work and maybe something that makes it so you have to put a key in to use the patch.
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Guadozoku
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2007, 01:09:27 pm » |
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I hope he gets some of the money from those donations, at least.
I don't. Not just because of the immorality of demanding money for an illegal translation and the problems it causes, or because the system he's proposing is completely ridiculous, but mainly because he comes off as a massive insecure prick. vvv I was talking about NightWolve. I don't have anything negative to say about Deuce. vvv E-mail Falcom. Maybe later, I'll do a rough Japanese translation of that, so wer can all tell Falcom what he's doing. |
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Kagemusha
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2007, 01:17:35 pm » |
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From what I understand, Nightwolve is trying to increase the sales for Falcom. I believe right now he's trying to implement industry standards for anti-piracy for his future patches. If no one can crack the security then people will be forced to buy the game and not illegally download it. Also I believe he will be using a loop-hole for charging for the patches. I believe he said that he would charge for the games to be sent by mail. Essentially you would be paying for the shipping service and not for the patch itself.
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Piotyr
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2007, 01:22:44 pm » |
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From what I understand, Nightwolve is trying to increase the sales for Falcom. I believe right now he's trying to implement industry standards for anti-piracy for his future patches. If no one can crack the security then people will be forced to buy the game and not illegally download it. Also I believe he will be using a loop-hole for charging for the patches. I believe he said that he would charge for the games to be sent by mail. Essentially you would be paying for the shipping service and not for the patch itself.
Thats bullshit. Hes basically trying to exploit it and cover it up by saying he... Wait you contacted falcom? DUDE! That would be bad seeing as his patches for older ys games make use of downloading the patches stright to the folders. Unless someone wants to remake the patch in a normal form that does not just download a downloader. |
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Guadozoku
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2007, 01:37:36 pm » |
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Thats bullshit. Hes basically trying to exploit it and cover it up by saying he... Wait you contacted falcom?
I didn't yet. If everyone thinks it's a bad idea, I won't, but as far as I can see, it's the only way to stop him, if we want to. |
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Piotyr
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2007, 01:40:16 pm » |
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Well it has yet to happen so call off yer dogs cause he may change his mind.
Second of all I would like it if his patches could be released as non-downloaders so they could be released on other sites but guess he would never give permission/he would dislike that.
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satsu
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2007, 01:41:06 pm » |
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From what I understand, Nightwolve is trying to increase the sales for Falcom. I believe right now he's trying to implement industry standards for anti-piracy for his future patches. If no one can crack the security then people will be forced to buy the game and not illegally download it. Also I believe he will be using a loop-hole for charging for the patches. I believe he said that he would charge for the games to be sent by mail. Essentially you would be paying for the shipping service and not for the patch itself.
1. Falcom aren't going to see a single cent of the money. 2. With a recent title like this - and a Windows title, no less - the ugly reality is that it's going to cause a boost in piracy. I'm not condoning it, but just look at sites like 4chan and you'll see it's the unfortunate truth. Furthermore, his proposed security measures are intended to protect his work, not Falcom's. 3. His statement says the money is in exchange for the work that went into the patch. Very late in December, I was very tempted to end all the freebies I have been giving out for all these years, and go shareware to recover some of the financial losses that I have incurred doing this. Add to the fact that when I honestly looked at the Felghana patch I had created, in all my amazement and astonishment of it, it felt utterly stupid to just hand it out for free. It is that valuable and professional - which you'll agree with when it goes public... I guess it actually has to be explained that making a patch like this or others like it in the past is NOT free nor easy. Warez butt pirates may think so, but that's actually not the case. Somebody pays for it, and guess what, it's mostly me through my labor which is worth a lot more to an employer than it is for this. (In my case specifically, there's a laundry list of irresponsible decision after irresponsible decision to even being doing this, but I'll spare the details.) It's not just my labor of course that I rely on, but that which is donated by other interested parties. 4. He stated the patch will become public eventually, which renders the security thing moot. And if he needs to hire people to help hack the game, I don't think it would take long for someone to crack it. No particular offense intended to his programming abilities, but do consider how quickly professional software ends up getting cracked. I wouldn't recommend contacting Falcom. It's not worth it, and if something did end up happening, it would set an ugly precedent for fan translations and fan translators. Just don't give him the attention. Regardless of whether or not this topic has been beaten to death on other sites, I think this is topic of discussion is very relevant to the community here. I mean, it's not like we're hammering out an official RHDN opinion or something, we're just discussing, right? Maybe this thread should just be moved into another section or something. I think it's a very interesting topic and I'd like to see what people here think about it. |
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« Last Edit: July 17, 2007, 01:50:53 pm by sa♥tsu »
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Piotyr
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2007, 01:46:14 pm » |
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Really in the end we should just consider him out of the game after felganas release.
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