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Topic: Obvious Improvements (Read 2 times)
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Ryusui
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2009, 11:12:56 pm » |
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Kirby & the Amazing Mirror has a few silly typos. 'Mr. Flosty'? Yeah.
'faild' in the ending of Mega Man 6 too. I looked at the rom and tried to fix that myself, but didn't work. Luckily they dealt with it for Anniversary Collection.
What about the Phoenix Wright games? I've heard 'The miracle never happen' is quite well known.
My best guess? They were provided a straight (read: Engrish) translation by Capcom Japan and that one line got skipped over. |
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tc
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2009, 01:13:43 am » |
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Yeah, I'm pretty cynical when it comes to translations. Or so I like to think. Don't actually know Japanese.
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Ryochan
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2009, 01:45:44 am » |
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"But being vague doesn't make it playable though. There is a fine line between 'when you come to a dead end, crouch with the crystal to find the path.' and ""Hit Deborah Cliff with your head to make a hole.""
Unfortunately, it isn't uncommon for things in games to BE vague. Especially the older ones.
"This topic makes me curious how accurate the translations of Zelda 1, Zelda 2, and Phantasy Star 4 are."I actually started on Phantasy Star 4 (haven't gotten back to it as I continue to try, with my friend, to finish a script I offered to translate). At least the first part seems accurate. 
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Ryusui
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2009, 04:55:56 am » |
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The Japanese version of Castlevania 2 has the blatant lies as well. I even found the original Graveyard Duck line.
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Vanya
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2009, 11:44:35 am » |
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Speaking of that line, what the hell is a 'graveyard duck'? Is is some antiquated term for a gravedigger or caretaker?
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Lindblum
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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2009, 11:59:13 am » |
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I always interpreted the Graveyard Duck line as 2 clauses, so I always figured Duck as a verb, so I never understood what people were talking about when they brought up the Graveyard Duck catchphrase.
It's fun to recall a time when VG clues were so obscure the only way to win was to gather hints from classmates by word of mouth or by subscribing to Nintendo Power.
THAT'S IT! Nintendo Power cut a deal with developers to botch the dialog and translations so that the only way for players to win was by subscribing to their fine publication, and the developers would get a sliver of the profit. Magnificent bastards!
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Next gen Cowboy
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2009, 12:47:53 pm » |
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BRPXQZME
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2009, 12:56:43 pm » |
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THAT'S IT! Nintendo Power cut a deal with developers to botch the dialog and translations so that the only way for players to win was by subscribing to their fine publication, and the developers would get a sliver of the profit. Magnificent bastards!
Well, certain cheat codes back in the day were very much intended to get players to buy the strategy guides or magazines. To quote Rex from Toy Story 2: “They make it so you can’t beat the game unless you buy this book! It's extortion, is what it is.†|
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Moulinoski
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2009, 12:59:39 pm » |
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I always interpreted the Graveyard Duck line as 2 clauses, so I always figured Duck as a verb, so I never understood what people were talking about when they brought up the Graveyard Duck catchphrase.
It's fun to recall a time when VG clues were so obscure the only way to win was to gather hints from classmates by word of mouth or by subscribing to Nintendo Power.
THAT'S IT! Nintendo Power cut a deal with developers to botch the dialog and translations so that the only way for players to win was by subscribing to their fine publication, and the developers would get a sliver of the profit. Magnificent bastards!
...BRPXQZME beat me to it. Curse you. Curse you I say. |
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Ryusui
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2009, 02:14:27 pm » |
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The original says "the duck at the graveyard"...or possibly "Ahiru at the graveyard". Noun, not verb.
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TreborAlmay
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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2009, 03:14:20 pm » |
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"But being vague doesn't make it playable though. There is a fine line between 'when you come to a dead end, crouch with the crystal to find the path.' and ""Hit Deborah Cliff with your head to make a hole.""
Unfortunately, it isn't uncommon for things in games to BE vague. Especially the older ones.
That's kinda what I was getting at. If things are too vague then new players that start the games will just shut it off when they get stuck. I mean heck, I grew up playing the Ninja Gaidens and such but when I pop one in now and it kicks my butt(cheaply) then I just say screw it and play another game(as I'm sure hundreds of others do). Some games need to be tamed down in difficulty, some need better translations, and some just need a simple clue as what to do next. To Ryusui that's actually pretty funny about C2 being accurately translated. All these years I just assumed that it was bad engrish. |
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Moulinoski
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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2009, 05:05:31 pm » |
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I'll admit that when a game gets too hard, I either find a way to cheat or I just stop playing altogether. By hard, however, I mean "I can't get through this section no matter how well I time whatever needs to be timed" or "I need to level up 10 times in this one area just to beat the boss I can easily get to?!"
I also quit playing Valkyrie Profile when I found out that I had to be parted from my party members... *tears*
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Ryusui
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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2009, 05:08:32 pm » |
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I quit playing P2: EP when I found out that they still felt compelled to reference P1's crappy "localization".
Just one more reason to hope P1 for PSP isn't a rumor.
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UglyJoe
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2009, 05:12:45 pm » |
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In defense of Simon's Quest, there were valid clues in the game. If you had Dracula's Eye equipped, you could find them throughout the game: 4.1 Scriptures
Clues are found with the eyeball at different parts of the game. Those
are the red pieces of paper you'll see lying around. Dave Anderson has
e-mailed me all of the messages, along with their location. This will help
if you want some general info, but don't want to be lead through the by
the nose with the walkthrough.
1(Veros) CLEAR A PATH AT BERKLEY MANSION WITH A WHITE CRYSTAL.
2(Berkley Mansion) A SYMOBOL OF EVIL WILL APPAER WHEN YOU STRIKE THE STAKE.
3(Berkley Mansion) DESTROY THE CURSE AND YOU'LL RULE BRAM'S MANSION.
4(Berkley Mansion) A FLAME FLICKERS INSIDE THE RING OF FIRE.
5(Veros Woods) TO REPLENISH EARTH,KNEEL BY THE LAKE WITH THE BLUE CRYSTAL.
6(Aljiba) AN OLD GYPSY HOLDS THE DIAMOND IN FRONT OF DE-BORAH CLIFF.
7(Rover Mansion) GARLIC IN THE GRAVEYARD WILL SUMMON A STRANGER.
8(Rover Mansion) DESTROY THE CURSE WITH DRACULA'S HEART.
9(Bram's Mansion) PLACE THE LAURELS IN A SILK BAG TO BRING THEM TO LIFE.
10(Bram's Mansion) WAIT FOR A SOUL WITH A RED CRYSTAL ON DEBORAH CLIFF.
11(Deborah Cliff) DRACULA'S NAIL MAY SOLVE THE EVIL MYSTERY.
12(Bodley Mansion) THE CURSE HAS KILLED THE LAUREL TREE.
13(Wicked Ditch) DRACULA'S EVIL KNIFE BLURS CAMILLA'S VISION.
quoted from http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/nes/file/587179/2977 |
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Moulinoski
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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2009, 10:03:22 pm » |
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I quit playing P2: EP when I found out that they still felt compelled to reference P1's crappy "localization".
Just one more reason to hope P1 for PSP isn't a rumor.
What'll happen if the P1 for PSP's localization is the same thing? Maybe Atlus feels lazy, y'know? |
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