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Topic: Pointless Gundam name crap (Read 1929 times)
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MegaManJuno
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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2007, 09:58:21 am » |
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Plus, being named after a flower isn't so uncommon... Rose, Lily, Daisy...
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RedComet
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2007, 10:46:40 am » |
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Or multiple spellings for the same name: Kaitlyn, Katelyn, Kaitlin, Katelynn, Katlyn, Kaitlynn, Katelin, Katlynn, Caitlin, Caitlyn, Caitlynn.
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snesmaster40
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2007, 12:28:11 pm » |
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Gideon Zhi
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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2007, 02:59:12 pm » |
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@(%*@(#*(%
This is EXACTLY what I was talking about. Everyone, shut the fuck up.
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Kajitani-Eizan
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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2007, 06:11:15 pm » |
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hey, don't diss rick hunter. that guy was the coolest guy ever. he goes from doofus who macks on singer chick to ace pilot that macks on singer chick AND officer girl, plus probably eight other people we don't even get to see. i bet rick hunter could kick hikaru's ass any day.
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Rai
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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2007, 06:14:09 pm » |
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I feel obligated to mention at this point that you're making exactly the argument you were trying so vehemently to refute with the whole Ranbo/Rambo thing a while back. Wink
Of course, you're still arguing against an official name on the grounds that you think it's silly. This isn't like the whole Glenn/Grenn thing with Chrono Cross--this is an actual official ENGLISH name that fits perfectly with the Japanese kana. Since that is the case, there has to be a good reason to change it--and there's not.
Consequently, it is my opinion that being named after a flower makes far more sense for the character than being named after a girl. But that really doesn't matter much because there's no good reason to NOT go with the official name on this one. It's not like they changed his name to Jim or Rick Hunter or something Tongue Fit's perfectly with the Japanese kana? Well of course, but you forget that there is no "C" in Japanese kana, which is why were having this whole argument. If there was a distinct "C" and a distinct "K" in kana, we would know without doubt what the Japanese creators had intended his name to be. And nobody said anything about the official name being silly, I'm just giving my opinion on why the official name might not be the best choice. Or multiple spellings for the same name: Kaitlyn, Katelyn, Kaitlin, Katelynn, Katlyn, Kaitlynn, Katelin, Katlynn, Caitlin, Caitlyn, Caitlynn.
But you see, Kamille is an uncommon name. Those names are all common. This is the only instance I've heard of a person being named "Kamille". You hear those names all the time, but this is the first time I've ever heard a person being named "Kamille". However, Camille is a fairly common name. In the case of multiple spellings, it can be either Kamille or Camille, but Camille is still the more common spelling. Plus, being named after a flower isn't so uncommon... Rose, Lily, Daisy... Yes, those are all common, but is "Kamille" common? No. Besides, why use the German name of the flower? Why not just use the English word and call him Chamomile? This is the same as Aeris/Aerith, but we know that Aeris is a mistranslation(which was fixed and changed to Aerith in latter games where Aerith made an appearence) because "Erith" or something like that, is hebrew for "flower". Here, we have no proof that Kamille is actually named after a flower. Like Gideon said though, let's end this now. This is not the topic to discuss this and neither side is going to win the argument.
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« Last Edit: April 30, 2007, 06:42:32 pm by Rai »
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Kitsune Sniper
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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2007, 06:56:08 pm » |
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Keep. This. Out. Of. The. Screenshots. Thread.
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RedComet
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2007, 07:08:52 pm » |
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Spoilsport.
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Kajitani-Eizan
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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2007, 09:15:12 pm » |
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you're just jealous that rick hunter is so kickass... unlike hikaru.
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Suzaku
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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2007, 09:41:54 pm » |
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If part of your argument is that Kamille isn't a common name....
How common do you think Amuro, Judau, or Usso are? Mwu La Flaga? Lacus? Commonality isn't exactly a relavant argument when you're talking about Gundam names.
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Maegra
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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2007, 01:24:36 am » |
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hey, don't diss rick hunter. that guy was the coolest guy ever. he goes from doofus who macks on singer chick to ace pilot that macks on singer chick AND officer girl, plus probably eight other people we don't even get to see. i bet rick hunter could kick hikaru's ass any day.
quoted for the truth
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Kitsune Sniper
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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2007, 03:00:13 am » |
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Spoilsport.
Better it be me than Banny McBannister Nightcrawler.
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Rai
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« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2007, 03:51:52 am » |
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How common do you think Amuro, Judau, or Usso are? Mwu La Flaga? Lacus? Commonality isn't exactly a relavant argument when you're talking about Gundam names. But Kamille could ALSO be Camille, a real name. You give little reason why one is better than the other. There is no possible real name that could go with Amuro, Judau, or any of the above names. You give no reason why Kamille is better, atleast I have reason for prefering Camille. No I'm not trying to convince any of you to change Camille to your preference, I'm just giving my opinion on why I personally, prefer Camille. The main point is "Kamille has a real name equivalent and Kamille with a "K" is not how that real name is commonly spelled". Give me a reason why the creators would name him after a German flower that's not commonly used as a name and I'll shut up. Or better yet, give me some reason, rather than "it's official" that Kamille is actually better. I mean, atleast there's proof out there that it could be Camille, while there is no logical reason for naming him Kamille other than the fact that it's his official name. If there is proof out there that Camille is indeed named after the German flower, the Kamille(Chamomile), then I'll shut up. If no one's going to actually listen to the points I make, but just argue anyway, I'm done.
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« Last Edit: May 01, 2007, 06:04:28 am by Rai »
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Suzaku
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« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2007, 08:09:14 am » |
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How common do you think Amuro, Judau, or Usso are? Mwu La Flaga? Lacus? Commonality isn't exactly a relavant argument when you're talking about Gundam names. But Kamille could ALSO be Camille, a real name. You give little reason why one is better than the other. There is no possible real name that could go with Amuro, Judau, or any of the above names. You give no reason why Kamille is better, atleast I have reason for prefering Camille. No I'm not trying to convince any of you to change Camille to your preference, I'm just giving my opinion on why I personally, prefer Camille. Gundam uses pretty much nothing BUT uncommon (or plain made-up) names for the most part. That means that, if anything, the commonality of "Camille" as a name actually works AGAINST you. "Camille is a real name" is not a reason for using it AT ALL when talking about Gundam. The main point is "Kamille has a real name equivalent and Kamille with a "K" is not how that real name is commonly spelled". Give me a reason why the creators would name him after a German flower that's not commonly used as a name and I'll shut up. Or better yet, give me some reason, rather than "it's official" that Kamille is actually better. I mean, atleast there's proof out there that it could be Camille, while there is no logical reason for naming him Kamille other than the fact that it's his official name. If there is proof out there that Camille is indeed named after the German flower, the Kamille(Chamomile), then I'll shut up.
If no one's going to actually listen to the points I make, but just argue anyway, I'm done.
You're confusing "better" with "correct." Camille can be the better name in your view, but calling him that is wholly incorrect. Why? Because he already has an official name that adheres perfectly to the Japanese. Did you stop to think that maybe they didn't so much name him after the German flower as NOT name him after a girl? And, again, the far more obscure spelling is more in-line with Gundam. And there's the pesky fact that he's NOT a girl. Since a perfectly acceptable official ENGLISH name already exists, it's entirely on you to show that it's not wrong. You can prefer Camille all you want--but that doesn't make it his name anymore than liking "Ranbo" changes the name of Sly Stallone's character. So far your entire argument is "Camille is a real name" and "I like it better." The former works against you, if anything, because that's just not the way Gundam rolls, and the latter is not a valid argument for correctness.
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RedComet
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« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2007, 08:14:24 am » |
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This is giving Kaeru vs Frog a run for its money. :laugh:
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