That one is apparently a little rare, I found both punchball Mario and Excitebike in my stash, but no SMB.

If this is a accurate port of the pc game then that won't be nessesarry. Cause finding the stuff on your own should be totally doable with a joystick, and savestates. You can just take that knowledge with you if you switch to playing the other game. Sounds like the main thing you'll be playing that version for willl be to see the hudson bee, cause it sounds like they won't bother putting that in here. PC version probably will be the inferior port.

Here's my suggestion tho, if there are dead end pipes and they look to be intentionally put in the game, leave them. It might be sadistic, but at least it will be accurate.

M88 has savestates, but if you find an emu with gamepad support, let me know.

That sentence just made my brain do a backflip.

the pipe info would be preferred

I'm of the opinion that we should first figure out what the hell the Bee does before it gets hacked for a different purpose in the NES version.  No matter what, I think the version should remain accurate. in every way, even if it involves major changes to the SMB code.  People say the Bee is a continue feature, but where's the proof?  I couldn't get it to do jack.  If there's some continue easter egg, then fine, but what is it?  And what's this hammer power up?


Guide books are never necessary, but I still have my SMB guide book that was available for sale in the Nintendo Fun Club News back in '87.  I was just saying that a similar guide would rock.

Oh, and could someone refresh my memory?  What's wrong with 4-2 exactly?

-Rob

I'd like to see someone hack in the bee before we even worry about what effect the bee has once it's collected additionally, from a priority standpoint I think invisible power up blocks are more important to implement than the bee. 

I'm pretty familiar with the SMB source, and as far as I can tell it is not particularly easy to add new block types without major changes.  it's much easier to replace blocks than to add them.  I did recover two blocks in the brown palette by switching the underwater sideways pipes to the same blocks which are used by the other sideways pipes. (i could do this since i also edited the palette for the water world so the pipe palette looks good)  also the climbing "vertical balls" (also brown palette) blocks could be repurposed though it'll still require checking for the right block numbers in the various block detection routines. 

Adding the other enemies are also a higher priority than the bee imo.  there's not a lot of slots for new enemy types either so that might be tricky.  i suppose maybe some of the firebars or lifts could be dropped if they aren't used

The SMB source does not have ANY room to add things, so anything which is added will require removing other things, so choices will likely have to be made when porting to the NES.  My current goal is to make a level port which is faithful to the overall gameplay as much as possible, then tile accurate as much as possible.  I have to take liberties sometimes when the original design is not possible, so already it's not going to be a 100% accurate port.

yeah I'm going to add a mapper but only to increase the level data by simply swapping in the new data once you reach world 5.  The rest of the memory will be identical.. i'll basically be like swapping in a second rom with new level data once you get halfway through the game.  i suppose the mapper could be used for other stuff too though.  even then making sure there are slots for everything could be an issue

and yes i'm rapidly running out of blocks and i just finished world 3.  i'm hoping i can fit all of worlds 1 - 4 into the unexpanded rom and that i can fit 5-8 in the second rom.  I will post world 3 once I double check everything