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z01
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2007, 07:10:34 pm »

Quote from: Panzer88 on October 17, 2007, 05:57:19 pm
would it be called Krono Triga? can't you translate those words too? Chrono and Trigger are both english words.
Isn't "chrono" just a word component, a prefix (in English)?
It doesn't have it's own meaning (in English!). Now Latin...
arpgme
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2007, 08:39:00 pm »

"Krono" is a IDO word. Don't confuse it with "Chrono" ! "Triga" is a borrowed word from English to 
obtain the original pronunciation.


I meant proper noun not pronoun!
Numonohi_Boi
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2007, 02:07:29 am »

does Krono mean time in IDO too? how convenient. and yes z01, it is only a prefix in English.
Spikeman
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2007, 02:36:16 am »

Quote from: Panzer88 on October 18, 2007, 02:07:29 am
does Krono mean time in IDO too? how convenient. and yes z01, it is only a prefix in English.

Ido is a combination of several natural languages (most based off Latin) so it is likely that many of the words are similar. Wink
javiskefka
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2007, 03:03:52 am »

Except krono apparently means crown in Ido:
http://io.wiktionary.org/wiki/krono

Time is tempo.

The English prefix -chrono comes from the Greek word khronos.  I'm under the impression that most Ido vocabulary comes from English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, and Russian.
abw
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2007, 07:32:56 pm »

Quote from: javiskefka on October 18, 2007, 03:03:52 am
The English prefix -chrono comes from the Greek word khronos.

So long as we're playing this game, the Greek is actually ὁ χρόνος. But yeah, chrono has (almost) nothing to do with Latin.
arpgme
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2007, 07:51:58 pm »

Quote from: javiskefka on October 18, 2007, 03:03:52 am
Except krono apparently means crown in Ido:
http://io.wiktionary.org/wiki/krono

Time is tempo.

The English prefix -chrono comes from the Greek word khronos.  I'm under the impression that most Ido vocabulary comes from English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, and Russian.

chronic: kronika.
chronicle: kroniko
chronology: kronologio
chronometer: kronometro

Therefore Chrono = Krono!
javiskefka
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2007, 10:59:04 pm »

Quote from: abw on October 18, 2007, 07:32:56 pm
Quote from: javiskefka on October 18, 2007, 03:03:52 am
The English prefix -chrono comes from the Greek word khronos.

So long as we're playing this game, the Greek is actually ὁ χρόνος. But yeah, chrono has (almost) nothing to do with Latin.

Can you explain yourself?  According to the chart, ὁ χρόνος is the nominative case of the noun χρόνος.  Why would you say that that particular case is more germane to the English prefix than the word in and of itself?

Quote from: arpgme on October 18, 2007, 07:51:58 pm
Quote from: javiskefka on October 18, 2007, 03:03:52 am
Except krono apparently means crown in Ido:
http://io.wiktionary.org/wiki/krono

Time is tempo.

The English prefix -chrono comes from the Greek word khronos.  I'm under the impression that most Ido vocabulary comes from English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, and Russian.

chronic: kronika.
chronicle: kroniko
chronology: kronologio
chronometer: kronometro

Therefore Chrono = Krono!

But the fact remains that the Ido word krono means crown in English, not time.
arpgme
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2007, 12:04:00 am »

"Krono" means "crown" AND "Chrono". I never claimed that it meant "time".
abw
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2007, 12:08:38 am »

Quote from: javiskefka on October 18, 2007, 10:59:04 pm
Quote from: abw on October 18, 2007, 07:32:56 pm
Quote from: javiskefka on October 18, 2007, 03:03:52 am
The English prefix -chrono comes from the Greek word khronos.

So long as we're playing this game, the Greek is actually ὁ χρόνος. But yeah, chrono has (almost) nothing to do with Latin.

Can you explain yourself?  According to the chart, ὁ χρόνος is the nominative case of the noun χρόνος.  Why would you say that that particular case is more germane to the English prefix than the word in and of itself?

Mostly I was just rendering the word in Greek, rather than a transliteration Tongue The ὁ slipped in by reflex. But, since you ask, I don't see why the nominative should have any particular advantage (with respect to English derivatives) over any other case for a second-declension noun. For a third-declension noun, on the other hand, the nominative is generally less relevant than, say, the genitive, which always contains the word's stem. The word doesn't exist "in and of itself" without being in a particular case, though... unless you're thinking about modern Greek, I suppose, which is mostly non-inflected.
javiskefka
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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2007, 12:18:23 am »

Quote from: arpgme on October 19, 2007, 12:04:00 am
"Krono" means "crown" AND "Chrono". I never claimed that it meant "time".

Ok, then.

Quote from: abw on October 19, 2007, 12:08:38 am
Quote from: javiskefka on October 18, 2007, 10:59:04 pm
Can you explain yourself?  According to the chart, ὁ χρόνος is the nominative case of the noun χρόνος.  Why would you say that that particular case is more germane to the English prefix than the word in and of itself?

Mostly I was just rendering the word in Greek, rather than a transliteration Tongue The ὁ slipped in by reflex. But, since you ask, I don't see why the nominative should have any particular advantage (with respect to English derivatives) over any other case for a second-declension noun. For a third-declension noun, on the other hand, the nominative is generally less relevant than, say, the genitive, which always contains the word's stem. The word doesn't exist "in and of itself" without being in a particular case, though... unless you're thinking about modern Greek, I suppose, which is mostly non-inflected.

The word's stem then, is what I meant to refer to originally.
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