If you put a tremendous effort into something it's only natural that people want to be recognized for it. They deserve that. Almost nobody reads readme files, not many watch ending credits. At least in the title screen most people are bound to see the notice from who the translation originates.

There are still more than enough morrons every year who believe they bought a official German Secret of Mana 2 from ebay although the tile screen clearly states it's a translation >_>

So I guess professional translations should remove their company's logos and the translation credits from their games, too, right? Atlus, for example, only did they English translation for Super Robot Wars: Original Generation, but as soon as you turn on the game you're hit in the face with "property of Atlus" or some such. You're saying that makes the translation less "perfect", right? Or did I miss something?


Yeah, he should be happy that some asshat is making an obscene amount of money of his hundreds of hours of work. Good idea.

I was refering to unofficial translations. Of course original games have to show all the logos of the involved companies.
I'm not saying it's a BAD thing, only that there are cases like the Bahamut Lagoon translations (or others) wich the hacking it's a bit too much intrusive. And as I say there's a lot of hackers who feel the same way. There's quite a lot of Genesis and Snes translations with no credits (or at the end, wich I like more).


If someone wants to sell pirate games in Ebay it doesn't matter the translator has credits or not in the game. That was not my point.


Sorry Nightcrawler, you're right. This doesn't belong in this post.

Just be glad DeJap didn't translate Der Langrisser ... or else you'd be looking at this:



We opted to put two quick splash screens, one indicating it's an English translation, another showing staff credits, then jumping into the game. I really didn't want to put the second screen there ... I put it there because of fuckhead pieces of shit like Cowering. Go thank him that we have our names in the intro.

You know, I really don't have a problem with someone putting a name, or a nickname or whatnot in the game- as long as it's a quality translation. A good, quality piece of translation work takes a hell of a long time to do- and these people do it for free. And because of that, the end result, by and large, becomes more than it was; it becomes representative of the effort the individual put into it. So, if they want to put a big logo of themselves or an animated tomato, that doesn't bother me at all. I'm just glad we get a translation in the first place.

For BL, we were really worried about evil pirates selling our stuff, so DF wanted to try to make it obvious it wasn't official. He also made those graphics just a tad bit harder to mess with. Around that time, we heard about J2E's FF4 getting sold in SE Asia, and maybe a few other games too.

The graphics wouldn't have been so crazy had we all been one single group too 

I never really followed the whole cowering thing, but it definitely sounds unfun.

EDIT: Although I don't think I was officially a DeJap member, I did wind up translating about 100 KB of Der Langrisser back in 2001/2002 for DF for dboy. I think that was how I convinced DF to help with BL. Not sure my work wound up being used (I doubt it) but there you go.

Really, my problem with Cowering is more the way he responded to my polite request to remove my translations from his list. He basically responded along the lines of, "Fuck you, I'll do whatever the fuck I want, asshole."

I was very upset with him in the past, but I'm really over it now. I'm just having fun in my own way with him now. He knows GoodSNES is dead and superceded by NSRT already. It certainly irks me that the very important readme files and manuals are being lost on pre-patched ROMs, but that's only a minor complaint. I don't really care that he isn't profiting. That's all the more reason he should honor our requests, or at least be polite when explaining that he won't. Anyway, I'm sorry for dragging that out over here. It's off topic.


Hehe ... yeah, I'm just poking at you guys in good fun ... but you have to admit ... it's pretty funny when you have to visibly look for the game's title on the screen ;)
Our DL second intro screen was kind of gaudy, too ...


D believes you were most likely working on Langrisser II's scripts. But if you did anything for Der Langrisser, we never received it. We wouldn't have had a problem using it, and would have given you proper credit ... we just never received the work. I'm very sorry if your work went to waste. It was not our intention.

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Anyway, Prof. Radikoff, for what it's worth ... I listened to your advice. We have removed the intro credit screen from Der Langrisser and will be posting version 1.01 shortly which reflects this change.

This is the new intro, the only screen shown:



The only reason for the intro staff credits screen was to allow the credits to be seen for people who download pre-patched ROMs off ROM sites. But that's no excuse to make our product unprofessional.