ED2's font just needs to be bitshifted a few times before it's readable.

Try looking for the Latin alphabet in there. :p

It seems quite obvious when you look at it how the letter is put together.

It's 12x12. First tile is upper left. Second tile is lower left. Then the third tile is split. First nibble contains data for the upper right, the second nibble of each byte in that tile contains the data for the lower right.

I'm going to tell you what your problem is. You have no understanding about what you're actually looking at. You don't know what a tile editor is doing, and what it is showing. That's why you're not going to understand any font that isn't the easiest thing possible to edit.

Do yourself a favor and start learning how these things work. From our database:

http://www.romhacking.net/docs/font.txt
http://www.romhacking.net/docs/consolegfx.txt
http://www.romhacking.net/docs/sprite.txt

We have information about hex and binary in our Getting Started section. Google is a secondary source with more information on binary, bits, bytes, and hex than you'll ever need.


Learn a bit of this and you'll understand the answers we give you. Beyond that, we can't help you. You can't really 'dumb' this stuff down. You''ll need to learn the terms. A quick search for 'bit shifting' on Google will give you answers.

More self learning, less hand holding...

How do you ever hope to succeed without studying stuff that you don't know about? That boggles my mind! You'll never learn anything new that way.

Anyway, yeah, that's what you need to do. I'm glad you can recognize that. That's half the battle there. I was a little harsh, but I wanted to get the point across. Yeah, this stuff takes time. You may have limited time, but that can't change the fact that you need to take time to learn some basic material.

I think I've given you plenty of material to get started with. You need to know that in one bit plane mode, Each line on each tile is just a single hex byte. If you start to understand this, you'll quickly understand what it is you're looking at.

Most of the questions you've asked over the past several days all have the same answer really. Learning these concepts will help you out tremendously. The goal is to learn a skill set which you can apply to any font situation to be able to figure it out. If you learn the concepts, you can figure out ANY font situation. You know, it's the old give a man a fish, teach a man to fish scenario. Feel free to ask more questions after you're read the material and tried some things out on your own.

We have no problem helping people so long as the try helping themselves as well.

You need to start at the bottom...

Binary/Hex
Binary Math
Binary manipulation

It's in the Getting Started section. Don't ignore it.

You will not be able to learn assembly without first mastering those skills because as I already said, that's what assembly instructions do.

Ha! I got it, it makes a bunch more sense now. Thanks NC!! ^_^

Now, when it comes to editing the font, if I ever make Estpolis a project, should I worry about creating a font like theirs, or would it be easier to create a 8x16 font or some such?

~DS

I know, I was just wondering if I should replicate the original font style, or just go off and do whatever I feel looks best. This being because that font is the script font, so changing that would change the whole look and feel of the game, and may complicate matters hacking wise. I'd much rather work with something like an 8x16.

~DS

It does? Then what the hell is the weird 12x12 font for? That looks like the script font to me.

The smaller font is used for menus and such, I believe.

~DS