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Topic: Dragon Quest VI - Questions About The Translation Patches (Read 1 times)
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Ademos
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« on: September 18, 2011, 10:45:29 am » |
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I looked at both translation patches for Dragon Quest 6 (SNES version). Do Both Patches Feature The Same Menu Bug?A review of the No Progress translation mentioned a "fatal bug" in the menu system. there are some fatal bugs in the game (most notably, backing out of the Info-All option sometimes crashes the game) But the RomHacking.net review of the DeJap translation didn't mention any menu bug. Does that mean that the DeJap's translation patch fixed the menu bug? Or is the menu bug still present in DeJap's translation? Which Translation Patch Has The Most Complete Translation?The RomHacking.net review mentioned that the No Progress translation is only missing 10% of "random strings" and that it is currently furthest along. But at the end of that review, they mentioned that DeJap was taking over the project. Sadly DeJap's RomHacking.net page claims that they too never finished. Leading to my question; which translation patch has the most complete translation? Thanks for reading. |
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Dwedit
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 06:40:12 pm » |
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If you want to play a complete translation, buy the DS version.
I've played through the SNES translation, and DS version, and I think I liked the DS version better.
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DQ Chao284
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2011, 09:03:41 pm » |
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I looked at both translation patches for Dragon Quest 6 (SNES version).
Do Both Patches Feature The Same Menu Bug?
A review of the No Progress translation mentioned a "fatal bug" in the menu system.
But the RomHacking.net review of the DeJap translation didn't mention any menu bug.
Does that mean that the DeJap's translation patch fixed the menu bug?
Or is the menu bug still present in DeJap's translation?
Which Translation Patch Has The Most Complete Translation?
The RomHacking.net review mentioned that the No Progress translation is only missing 10% of "random strings" and that it is currently furthest along.
But at the end of that review, they mentioned that DeJap was taking over the project.
Sadly DeJap's RomHacking.net page claims that they too never finished.
Leading to my question; which translation patch has the most complete translation?
Thanks for reading.
Well let alone the DS version is out, seems to be a bit more better on it, the problem was DeJap and NoProgress never expanded the Rom for DQ6 on here, also they used the Fixed-Width Compression that requires Fedien and some how managed to get the hard coded source code for the font and compression setup, had diffculity figuring it out, if anything the translation was also not too good according to those at Dragon's Den, now the members of these groups are probably not going to be around or might got them selves busted for doing this, the fact is, this translation was done back when Windows 2000 was first released, During that time it was very hard to find the code for both the script and font area. |
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Gideon Zhi
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2011, 12:03:10 am » |
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... the problem was DeJap and NoProgress never expanded the Rom for DQ6 on here, also they used the Fixed-Width Compression that requires Fedien and some how managed to get the hard coded source code for the font and compression setup, had diffculity figuring it out, if anything the translation was also not too good according to those at Dragon's Den, now the members of these groups are probably not going to be around or might got them selves busted for doing this, the fact is, this translation was done back when Windows 2000 was first released,
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Ademos
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2011, 12:09:27 am » |
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Wow, I didn't expect a reply from a rom hacking veteran like Gideon Zhi! Thanks for the comical reply. I appreciate the answers. I am aware of the Nintendo DS version of Dragon Quest 6, but I dislike the tiny screen size and visual style of the 3D modeling. Therefore, I am planning to play the SNES version. Because of my plans to play the SNES version, I'm still curious which patch would be recommended. |
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« Last Edit: September 19, 2011, 12:21:08 am by Ademos »
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DQ Chao284
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2011, 01:27:30 am » |
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Wow, I didn't expect a reply from a rom hacking veteran like Gideon Zhi!
Thanks for the comical reply.
I appreciate the answers.
I am aware of the Nintendo DS version of Dragon Quest 6, but I dislike the tiny screen size and visual style of the 3D modeling.
Therefore, I am planning to play the SNES version.
Because of my plans to play the SNES version, I'm still curious which patch would be recommended.
Well the No Progress one seems to be the current one only, everything else is dead or incomplete, and yes, a lot of the staff here can't understand me because I am quite intelligent with my responces, thus most here don't understand me here, mores reasons I get in trouble with the owner here sometimes. |
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Ademos
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 02:19:57 am » |
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Thanks DQ Chao284, that answers my question.
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Gideon Zhi
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2011, 08:19:50 am » |
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and yes, a lot of the staff here can't understand me because I am quite intelligent with my responces Which is exactly why you spelled "response" wrong! Not to mention that your grammar is atrocious. Seriously. There's no such thing as "fixed width compression," and "when Windows 2000 was first released" is an awfully bizarre temporal landmark, especially when we have datestamps for the initial releases of the translations in the database. Date of release also does not have any real bearing on quality; SD3 was released at about the same time and is one of the finest translations available. And I'm assuming "hard coded source code" is supposed to be the machine code? News flash: machine code is NOT source code, and by definition is "hard coded" assuming I follow your chain of bizarre logic correctly. Thus, redundancy, which ought either to be avoided or used in a very deliberate fashion, neither of which seems to be the case here. Generally, if we can't understand you, it's not because you're showing off your vast "intelligence." In all truth, I'm also interested in the answer to this question, but I'm not sure I trust the response it's gotten. Anyone else want to weigh in? |
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Aerdan
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2011, 08:35:21 am » |
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DQ Chao284, I can only conclude from your buzzword-laden post that you don't actually have any clue as to what you are talking about, so I'm going to have to agree with Gid.
(Blunt? Me?)
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DQ Chao284
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2011, 09:16:14 am » |
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Then why not you 2 just report me for acting too "Retardish" as you guys like to call people with Autism and Aspergers with, because in real life, you guys hate people with the disorder, and I am sure Nightcrawler sees it that he hates them as well as well with every rom hacker out there,
I was just trying to speak my mind, but you 2 see me as a "Retard" as most Rom Hackers are...
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justin3009
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2011, 09:31:03 am » |
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That statement has nothing to do with anything. They're calling you out because of what you said, not because of what disorder you have. By you dictating that they're calling ALL of them "retardish" just because of your comment is not helping your cause and actually makes it look even worse for you.
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KingMike
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2011, 10:44:53 am » |
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Let's not continue to discuss DQ Chao284's intelligence level. :police:
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Ademos
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 10:57:50 am » |
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Let's not continue to discuss DQ Chao284's intelligence level. :police:
Thank you King Mike! Though I find the anthropology here compelling, I did not mean to mean to host a flame war. I appreciate the responses, but it would indeed be more helpful if they were on-topic. |
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Nightcrawler
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2011, 11:04:16 am » |
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Really? REALLY? What are you talking about? Who called who "retardish" and where? Does anyone actually use that non-word? Who do I hate and why again? :huh: This sounds like an exciting tale! Dragon Quest VI:NoPrgress has the most complete translation. Although some have talked about doing so, there are no current fruitful efforts (to my knowledge) to translate it again, or complete this version. Someone should edit the description to remove the bit about DeJap (public maintenance time anyone?) and potentially give more detail on the missing pieces. I have never actually played through it myself. |
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Ademos
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 11:13:46 am » |
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In all truth, I'm also interested in the answer to this question, but I'm not sure I trust the response it's gotten.
Anyone else want to weigh in?
I'm glad to hear that we share an interest in this topic. I too hope to gain more responses. Dragon Quest VI:NoPrgress has the most complete translation. Although some have talked about doing so, there are no current fruitful efforts (to my knowledge) to translate it again, or complete this version. Someone should edit the description to remove the bit about DeJap (public maintenance time anyone?) and potentially give more detail on the missing pieces. I have never actually played through it myself. Alright! The administrator of RomHacking.net has come to my aid! Thank you for the answer, Nightcrawler. I too would enjoy more detail on the missing parts of the Dragon Quest 6 translation. Perhaps a revelation of the missing parts of Dragon Quest 6, would inspire someone to continue translation work on it. (Though I'm aware that's wishful thinking) |
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« Last Edit: September 19, 2011, 11:24:07 am by Ademos »
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