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southark2
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« on: April 03, 2007, 09:27:37 pm » |
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Well this is more then likely a dumb question but as far as I know in the states there never was a cart that had only super mario bros.
I myself have about 20 different smb1 w duckhunt and other's like trackmeet or tetris carts,
I have never came across one that was by it's self.
Maybe it came out in Japan or Canada,
Anyway I all ways think that if I have an smb1 rom that is a single game then it has to be an bad dump anyway as it is a rare cart,
One I have never seen except on the net. Also I am aware that there is an actual stand alone super mario bros cart,
But how do we know that the person who dumped super mario bros didn't rip it out of an smb1-w-duckhunt cart,
And call it a good dump of super mario bros 1 all because it worked with nesticle or some other old emulator.
I was just wondering and I figured some might not know that it is an rare cart to find.
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Dragonsbrethren
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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2007, 09:34:44 pm » |
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Well this is more then likely a dumb question but as far as I know in the states there never was a cart that had only super mario bros. Really? I've got one sitting right here on my desk  |
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Numonohi_Boi
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2007, 11:21:15 pm » |
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when it was originally released it was on it's own right, it was the later versions that were compilations
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Neil
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2007, 09:11:51 am » |
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yeah, the first year or two of the NES mario and duck hunt were individual carts.
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southark2
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2007, 11:05:26 am » |
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Oct, 1985 thats the same month and year that I got my Nintendo and it came with smb1-w-duckhunt two controllers and a zapper, And I remember that at walmart they only had two types of Nintendo systems you could by either the one with smb1-w-duckhunt, Or the other one that had smb1-w-donkykong two controllers no zapper but it was still a single cart. Sure I have seen the smb1 singe cart on the net but never in real life. Maybe Arkansas is behind the times or something they say we are backwards.  |
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KingMike
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2007, 11:50:33 am » |
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Didn't the NES originally launch with ROB?
(I dunno. My first console was an SNES, but I've heard the ROB was Nintendo's lure to get people buy an NES after Atari was failing rapidly.)
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Neil
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2007, 11:55:28 am » |
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when i got mine, i had a single smb1 cart, a single duck hunt cart, and a gray zapper. so did the kid down the street. the kid next door got his the following christmas and had a combo cart.
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Deuce
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2007, 12:05:11 pm » |
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(I dunno. My first console was an SNES, but I've heard the ROB was Nintendo's lure to get people buy an NES after Atari was failing rapidly.)
It was. After the 2600 became a piece of junk in the eyes of the American consumer, people wanted nothing to do with anything branding itself a "video game." Hence the name, "Entertainment Center," and the redesign, to avoid the toy-like look of the Famicom. ROB was one way of making it even less videogame-ish. Random fact: The Atari 2600 was $300 at launch, with Combat as its pack-in game. Adjusted for inflation, that would be roughly $800 in today's money... and games at $50 a pop would be $133 in modern cash. Realistically, games and consoles have only been getting cheaper and cheaper as time has gone on. The $600 PS3 would've only been about $224 back in 1980. |
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KingMike
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2007, 12:08:24 pm » |
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Interesting. Sorta like how it took Nintendo about two years to merge SMW and All-Stars?
(after SMAS was released, Nintendo offered it for only the shipping charge to anybody who bought an SNES with SMW)
(also, I'm pretty sure there were at least two versions of SMAS in the US, maybe three.
I've heard some early copies got out before Nintendo remembered to remove a debug code (just press Select to cycle SMB3 Mario's powerup). Also, I could swear the game select screen said "SUPER MARIO: THE LOST LEVELS: UNRELEASED" (possibly removing the extra stamp in the SMB2j shot) in my Player's Choice copy (but I haven't played it in awhile, and don't have my SNES at the moment to check), compared to "SUPER MARIO: THE LOST LEVELS 1986" in the original release copy I played back in the day, as well as the circulating ROM.
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Numonohi_Boi
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2007, 01:14:26 pm » |
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it was interesting we got a version of SM All Stars, but it wasn't in the same cart yet, in fact we got SMW up front and had to wait like several weeks to a month for all stars to arrive in the mail.
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doppelganger
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2007, 10:32:34 pm » |
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It's funny that you should mention smb1 and duckhunt. When I was doing SMBDis, someone had made the claim that there were two versions of it, dubbed PRG0 and PRG1. As it turns out, what everyone thought was PRG1 was in fact a dump of SMB1's program ROM data from the 3-in-1 (SMB1/Duck Hunt/World Class Track Meet).
Also, when I went looking for SMB1's program ROM data in the SMB1/Duck Hunt PRG-ROM and found it, I did a binary comparison. It matches the SMB1 program ROM exactly.
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Kitsune Sniper
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2007, 11:21:51 pm » |
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It's funny that you should mention smb1 and duckhunt. When I was doing SMBDis, someone had made the claim that there were two versions of it, dubbed PRG0 and PRG1. As it turns out, what everyone thought was PRG1 was in fact a dump of SMB1's program ROM data from the 3-in-1 (SMB1/Duck Hunt/World Class Track Meet).
Also, when I went looking for SMB1's program ROM data in the SMB1/Duck Hunt PRG-ROM and found it, I did a binary comparison. It matches the SMB1 program ROM exactly.
There's millions of SMB1/Duck Hunt carts. Who knows, there may have been more than one revision done. |
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doppelganger
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2007, 02:45:44 am » |
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Yeah, if by "revision" you mean "bootleg" or "pirate dump".
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Kitsune Sniper
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2007, 04:18:47 pm » |
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Yeah, if by "revision" you mean "bootleg" or "pirate dump".
No, I repeat, there's MILLIONS OF COPIES of the original game out there. Millions. There's a chance the game was messed with more than once. |
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