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Author Topic: Long Live Secret of Mana!  (Read 2 times)
hagfelsh
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« on: March 11, 2009, 01:14:26 pm »

A friend and I just completed a great Secret of Mana binge... marathoned the thing in 2 days of pizza & staying up late. 

It's been a good 13 years since I've played it; since then, quite a romhacking community has developed.  Knowing this, I noticed lots of things that would be fun to change and add in SOM.... to my complete shock, there is almost nothing available that directly edits the game!  I understand that the process of reverse engineering a SNES cart is no small task, so maybe I shouldn't be so surprised lol....

I did find something that looks very promising, but it's gone quiet in recent months: Mop's Somedit.  This program looks to be a marvel in the making!

Perhaps if we can convince Mop to share his source with RH.net (in exchange for always receiving due credit, of course), the rest of you folks who know what's going on in the world of ROMs could help speed this project to completion?

Mop posted a link to his blog about somedit: somedit.blogspot.com.  He also introduced his creation earlier this year here: http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,7177.0.html

Let's go!
 :thumbsup:
Deathlike2
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 03:04:59 pm »

1) You would have been better of bumping that thread instead, but whatever.

2) It seems to me that there's a lot on the person's plate, so it's not a matter of convincing the person for a release... rather waiting until it gets done.

3) It doesn't appear to me the person has issues manipulating the data.. it's moreso having the time to work on the editor to do what is needed to be done.

So, it's really another wait and see deal, like most projects.
hagfelsh
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2009, 11:23:09 am »

I don't mean to suggest Mop is bugged into working faster on a release--I mean that perhaps if the rest of the community joined forces, a release would come into fruition faster (or at all).  'Wait and see' usually turns into 'would have been nice.'
UglyJoe
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2009, 11:40:27 am »

Quote from: hagfelsh on March 13, 2009, 11:23:09 am
'Wait and see' usually turns into 'would have been nice.'

That's up to the individual.  Around here, 'Wait and see' usually turns into 'Wait longer and see' or 'Eff it, I'll just do it myself'.
Deathlike2
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2009, 11:46:21 am »

Quote from: hagfelsh on March 13, 2009, 11:23:09 am
I don't mean to suggest Mop is bugged into working faster on a release--I mean that perhaps if the rest of the community joined forces, a release would come into fruition faster (or at all).

This isn't emulation that people are trying to improve here.... where multiple eyes are working on the same project. It's one person who's trying to juggle other things, including life, to create a free product.

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'Wait and see' usually turns into 'would have been nice.'

If you're not creating it yourself, then I don't see forward progress. Lots of projects require the time and effort to find/document/implement stuff. It's the same formula for success and these things don't create themselves out of thin air.

I do believe SOM would benefit from this editor greatly, but considering that the only real hacks to date is a hardtype hack and a VWF hack... in conjunction with the fact that SOM is buggy in its own right, it has generally little to do with how popular the game is, but moreso the lack of interest to hack the game. It's been the same for practically every romhacking project in existance, whether it be translation or hack.

Edit:

I was naive once upon a time.. thinking that "if I told everyone that they should help out, this project would get done quicker", but that's not reality. Reality says that if you want to see things get done, you have to accomplish it yourself. Things don't automagically fall your way. These things happen when contributing outside factors exist. Spamming forums about "help my pet cause out" doesn't actually get stuff done, to be honest. If you are proactive and ask for others to test something that you've created, then you'll see progress.
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