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only thing now is i can use Tahaxan for ds game but what about ps2,psx games ?atm gona play with a few ds games on a side note is how to aplie,make your work into a patch file to applie to the game also here ? as i like to know who will i test what i done anyway thanks again

thought i might have to use xdelta see it thou no idea how to use i lol i google it latter did noticed that after searching through the utilities there no ds ,ps2 Graphics Editors and when u place ds files in tile pro or Tile Molester no matter what codec or for me anyway will it make so i guessing that i can't do anything with the nftr font files haven't looked at ps2 yet but is there a program like ds top station or Tahaxan as haven't looked at ps2 yet gonna get the hang of the ds first as it easier to test on  i guessing i gonna have to do trial and error to get the right using  tables as it looks like i have to do it that way did read a bit on how to make em i understand how to do it but there all for snes and older console's i guessing the same principle will work but not sore if i need to open the arc file or just use a hex editor also feel like i missing somthing important what i read i guess i need to make a table and work from there makeing the table for a snes looks easy thou for ds i not able to figure it out if there is a guide on how others translated a game i like to read that and see what i doing wronge or not doing as yes the things i read are great but leaves out to much in my opion or maybe i not reading it right as i want to learn this no matter what i hope someone will have to time to explain to me what i need in programs and a basic what to do as to me these other old guide don't seem to be usefull in helping me anyway i still gona muck around with it if someone helps me out wicked in not i just have to keep trying

well looked at snes and gba and the guide and that was prity stright forward i could do somthing i just followed the guide then played around with my own add in text but when i tryed with ds but most i could get to was trying to get the font nftr and failed then tryed makeing a table but then got stuck as the process changed and i had no idea what to do maybe not trying hard ength and when i looked around on google people doing the same game where geting somwhere and had a post so i read it thou there problem was not the same as mine oh well i just gessing i missing a step or 2 in what i doing anyway thanks for the help so far i guess scripting, hex,graphic codeing "mmorpg codeing " and  some other skills i have ant helping lol oh well i just hope someone can help me out or i get ova this prob this week or prob give up and go back to my game/ console design one again great site and helpful  oh the game i trying to translate is a game i have both in japanese and in a patched english version trying to do the same thing that already translated then change a bit so i see how it was do then do the rest my self then work on a game that i know atm is not being translated then once it done if it get to that i post the full patch here

nice every one hates my english nice well i just give up till there some programs out or a guide written  for ds as there is no nes,snes,gba game i want to translate and only reason i trying ds is i am planing to do a ps2 game  i goning back to makeing my os at least there no road blocks there just my lazyness anyway thanks for the help so far

I give up.

Edit: You know what? I'm gonna lock this topic. I feel it will lead to flame wars if I don't.