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Topic: VWF Font Suggestions (Read 2 times)
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RedComet
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« on: June 15, 2008, 03:51:41 pm » |
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As some of you know, Bare Knuckle 3 is nearing completion. The VWF is working, but there's a small "problem": the font I'm currently using isn't very VWF-friendly. What I mean is I've only gained a small amount of space more than what I had with a normal fixed width 8x16 font. So, I'm looking around for a font that is similar to the font I'm already using, but is a lot thinner. Here's the current font:  (More screenshots.)I haven't had any luck finding anything that fits the game. Anyone have any suggestions for an 8x16 VWF font? |
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Gemini
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2008, 04:54:05 pm » |
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Maybe this one?  Preview mock up:  |
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Kajitani-Eizan
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2008, 07:20:04 pm » |
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too thin, imo... i would post mine (fixed width 8x12) but it's 6 wide on average per letter, saving you an average of 1 pixel per character. EDIT: i lied, here it is.  pretty standard... it's a thinned-out version of a 12x12 FWF from a japanese game. now that i look at it, it seems similar to the font DarknessSavior used for DQM: Caravan Hearts. also, sorry about the reverse order thing. and the mockup:  |
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« Last Edit: June 15, 2008, 08:50:09 pm by Kajitani-Eizan »
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BRPXQZME
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2008, 09:50:41 pm » |
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Honestly, if it’s not too thick, I think the original font will do if you whittle down a few elements that look typographically curious:  original:  The only things I did were: - reduce the spaces to n-width (6 pixels) - reduce letters like ‘e’, ‘s’, ‘c’, ‘u’, and ‘a’ to n-width (6 pixels, so only two open on the inside) - chop the serif off the ‘l’ (all the other letters pretty much don’t have ’em) - reduce the left side of ‘t’ and ‘f’ (they look weird being that long in a proportional font... obviously in a monospace font, you do what you can to make skinny letters wider) - lower the dot on the ‘i’ - recenter - resist saying “damage†This more or less makes the overall feel (a tall sans-serif that kinda feels modern and alienating, just like most urban architecture) the same, without the ham-handed-looking unevenness. You could opt to make the ‘m’ or the ‘W’ wider if you decide to keep that look, but I didn’t bother. (Also, if you do this, you’re prolly gonna wanna reduce the width on the skinny capitals, especially I and J... I’ll gladly do this if someone bothers to grab the whole font and wants me to, but I’m too lazy to grab the font myself...) |
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KaioShin
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2008, 02:43:16 am » |
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pretty standard... it's a thinned-out version of a 12x12 FWF from a japanese game. now that i look at it, it seems similar to the font DarknessSavior used for DQM: Caravan Hearts.
I'm mortally offended. Not only did you get the name of the game wrong (It's Caravan Heart) but confused me for...  On Topic: I'd like the font archive section idea Neil once came up with to be brought up again. Edit: still on the backburner :'( |
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« Last Edit: June 16, 2008, 02:53:38 am by KaioShin »
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Tauwasser
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2008, 04:45:54 am » |
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Maybe this one? Preview mock up: I think that`s a nice font, but it needs a major redo of the accented/umlaut/diacritic characters... I would say go with that for an English translation tho. cYa, Tauwasser |
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Neil
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2008, 08:11:29 am » |
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Red, I'm not here to help in any way, shape or form, other than to point out that you're looking for help picking a Variable Width Font Font.
Oh, and Gemini is right, thinner is better. Or maybe not. I'd say either his font or some terminal type of font or Courier for the newspapery look.
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Tauwasser
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2008, 08:54:47 am » |
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Variable Width Font Font. This is common and generally accepted. You don`t say "ISB number" either, though an "ISBN number" is techniaclly an "International Standard Book Number number"... Meaning it is alright to say VWF Font. cYa, Tauwasser |
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RedComet
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2008, 02:20:23 pm » |
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Red, I'm not here to help in any way, shape or form, other than to point out that you're looking for help picking a Variable Width Font Font.
Maybe I meant a Variable Width Friendly Font? Huh?  Anyway, thanks for the suggestions guys. I think I'm gonna go with Gemini's for now. I really like the slightly modified font you post, BRPXQZME, but I still think it'll be too wide to really take advantage of the VWF. Gemini's font in-game, plus auto-centering:  |
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Kajitani-Eizan
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2008, 03:56:16 pm » |
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maybe thin out the numbers a bit to match the letters? also perhaps make it a pixel shorter to make it a bit more proportional? otherwise, looks good! pretty standard... it's a thinned-out version of a 12x12 FWF from a japanese game. now that i look at it, it seems similar to the font DarknessSavior used for DQM: Caravan Hearts.
I'm mortally offended. Not only did you get the name of the game wrong (It's Caravan Heart) but confused me for... 'A` sorry about that... i knew something was off about my post, but i wasn't sure what  |
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Neil
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2008, 05:30:04 pm » |
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Variable Width Font Font. This is common and generally accepted. You don`t say "ISB number" either, though an "ISBN number" is techniaclly an "International Standard Book Number number"... Meaning it is alright to say VWF Font. cYa, Tauwasser The same, I suppose, could apply to ATMs. Most people call them atm machines without realizing that ATM stands for Automated Teller Machine. An American saying (which I suppose could apply to any equally tall structure) comes to mind: If your friend jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge, would you also jump? I think Red is better than that. |
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Spikeman
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2008, 09:47:02 pm » |
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BRPXQZME
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2008, 08:05:09 pm » |
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Anyway, thanks for the suggestions guys. I think I'm gonna go with Gemini's for now. I really like the slightly modified font you post, BRPXQZME, but I still think it'll be too wide to really take advantage of the VWF.
Hey, at least I’m not the only one who wanted to see what it’d look like!  |
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RedComet
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2008, 12:00:01 pm » |
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I'm actually curious to see what the modified font looks like in-game, BRPXQZME. Would you care to modify the font? I'm not really sure which characters besides the ones you mentioned to alter. I fail at graphics.  \  Binary - 1BPP |
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DarknessSavior
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2008, 01:19:38 pm » |
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pretty standard... it's a thinned-out version of a 12x12 FWF from a japanese game. now that i look at it, it seems similar to the font DarknessSavior used for DQM: Caravan Hearts.
I'm mortally offended. Not only did you get the name of the game wrong (It's Caravan Heart) but confused me for... On Topic: I'd like the font archive section idea Neil once came up with to be brought up again. Edit: still on the backburner :'(Hey! I resemble that remark! Well, at least he didn't call you Rai.  ~DS |
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