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Redlandsman87
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« on: February 25, 2008, 05:58:15 pm »
First of all, I hope this is the right board for my question.

Anyway, I'm sure a lot of you know about some of those "downgraded" games that have been popping up lately...such as Biohazard NES, Final Fantasy VII NES, the ill-fated Grand Theftendo, and other such titles.

About three years ago, there was a very extensive hack of Final Fantasy II, which when played, was a NES styled version of Final Fantasy X. Well, it was supposed to be.

You see, when people got news of this, they went crazy it seems. Oh, there were a lot of nice screen shots and concept sprites, and news sites raved about "Fully playable Blitzball", Limit breaks, a complete adaption of the Sphere Grid...the list goes on. But simply stated, there wasn't anything to back it up. No full game was ever released.

But, it seems that some beta files and a small demo was released. It took me a very long time to track them down, as many of the sites that had hosted it went down, or any promising links were broken...but I eventually found them. Here is the link -

http://www.compmike19.com/id461.htm

There are two RAR files to be downloaded, on the sidebar...the NES beta files, and a small PC demo, and various sound files and whatnot. They literally last no more than about five or ten minutes, but they are there none-the-less.

Now, I am not a hacker, or a translator, or whatever..but I want to know more about these files. So I was wondering...would anyone be willing to maybe dig around in the ROMs or the EXE file, and just check things out? I'm not really sure what I would want you to look for, but if there. might be some information to be gained, that would be fantastic. Hell, it might even be able to translate what little text are in these files, if we knew how they worked. Just for the hell of it.

Well, that's all I have to say as of now. Thanks for taking the time to read my post.
RedComet
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2008, 06:36:34 pm »
It isn't a hack. I'm just gonna copy/paste my reply on another board when I first saw this:

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Quote from: Yar Kramer
Also, they appear to be storing the music and sound in MP3s and WAVs, respectively, instead of like running from the "sound engine."

Quote from: RedComet
Yeah. Forgot to mention that. A lot of the other features look odd. Like the Sphere Grid, unless they cut down the individual sphere grids and allow each character to have one and only one grid (Tidus has only the grid he starts with and can't move onto Auron's, Yuna's, etc.), I don't see how they could possibly have enough RAM for everything. I mean, one character's stats alone would take up a good chunk of RAM even if they're compressing the data (which no doubt they are if it's truly an NES ROM). Throw in all the other things that are required in order for the game to run and "do tricks" and you're looking at a helluva lot of RAM and the NES only has $800 (2048 in decimal) bytes of RAM.

Another thing, is the "positioning" numbers in the upper-left corner. It appears to be the X and Y coordinates for Tidus when moving around on the map. Another thing that's bugging me is the font. If it's really a ROM, all the font tiles would be *in* the rom, and this clearly isn't the case. If it were, then you wouldn't have to add the font file included in teh .zip to your Windows\\Fonts\\ folder. The .dll and the other .hpi file (never heard of that type of file before though) wouldn't be necessary.

And this is really funny:


I CAN SEE YOUR CODE LITTLE MAN!

In conclusion, whoever originally said this was an NES ROM image is full of shit.
Nightcrawler
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2008, 10:00:28 am »
All I can say is:

Myth BUSTED!!
akadewboy
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2008, 02:30:33 pm »
I think it was just a couple news sites that mistook it for an NES hack, then it exploded and all the other news websites spread the misinformation. I don't think the original Japanese authors ever claimed it was a hack of the NES game. They even said that they used Hot Soup Processor to make the game on their website.
BRPXQZME
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2008, 08:07:08 pm »
Quote from: akadewboy on February 26, 2008, 02:30:33 pm
They even said that they used Hot Soup Processor to make the game on their website.
And you’ve got to admit: that’s a pretty good name for a rock band.
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