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Naruto
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« on: July 18, 2007, 09:06:35 pm »

Rockboard -



Rockboard - Megaman version



Megaboard - I have a problem. What did I do? Help ?! Lips sealed


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« Last Edit: July 18, 2007, 09:12:15 pm by Naruto »
KingMike
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2007, 09:25:28 pm »

The "O" tiles are being reused.
Check for documents about tilemaps.
Naruto
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2007, 09:30:56 pm »

Quote from: KingMike on July 18, 2007, 09:25:28 pm
The "O" tiles are being reused.
Check for documents about tilemaps.

Hmm.. Where ?  Embarrassed
Jedi QuestMaster
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2007, 02:43:04 am »

Megabeard! :thumbsup:

It looks like you can still pull this off, seeing as the entire top row of tiles aren't being used, but you're going to need to do some extra work arranging them.

Maybe this will help:

http://www.romhacking.net/docs/33/
Naruto
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2007, 09:30:36 am »

Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on July 19, 2007, 02:43:04 am
Megabeard! :thumbsup:

LOL!

Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on July 19, 2007, 02:43:04 am
It looks like you can still pull this off, seeing as the entire top row of tiles aren't being used, but you're going to need to do some extra work arranging them.

Maybe this will help:

http://www.romhacking.net/docs/33/

I am not sure I understand the problem. Maybe I can solicit the help of someone who does ASM hacking for my particular system, huh ? Smiley
Odin_Knight
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2007, 09:40:40 am »

you're problem is that the tiles that compose the top part of the O are the same that were used to create the top part of the first O in the original title screen. Since you changed them to a E it also changes all the top tile from the second O to the ones you altered. To correct this you need to change the tilemap. So as KingMike said just check the documents section and search for tilemaps
Naruto
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2007, 09:44:04 am »

Quote from: Odin_Knight on July 19, 2007, 09:40:40 am
you're problem is that the tiles that compose the top part of the O are the same that were used to create the top part of the first O in the original title screen. Since you changed them to a E it also changes all the top tile from the second O to the ones you altered. To correct this you need to change the tilemap. So as KingMike said just check the documents section and search for tilemaps

I know. I am not very good at it and I do not understand what I am looking at the documents.  Cry :banghead:
Jedi QuestMaster
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2007, 12:19:26 pm »

From Title Screen Hacking Made Easy

Quote
Locating Title Screen Data:

 Now that you've located the tiles for the title screen, it's time to
 figure out where the title screen data is located within the ROM. You
 do this by relative searching with a hex editor. (If you don't know
 how to relative search, look for a document on the subject on one of
 the sites listed in the reference section.)

Except I wouldn't recommend relative searching.  I would use a PPU viewer & TLP to locate the tiles & determine the values.

What emulator are you using?  Does it have a PPU viewer? If so, see if you can get a snapshot of it.  If not, I recommend FCEUXD.
Naruto
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2007, 05:58:04 pm »

Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on July 19, 2007, 12:19:26 pm

Except I wouldn't recommend relative searching.  I would use a PPU viewer & TLP to locate the tiles & determine the values.

What emulator are you using?  Does it have a PPU viewer? If so, see if you can get a snapshot of it.  If not, I recommend FCEUXD.

I am using VirtuaNES. Nope. Okay, I am using FCEUXD now. Screenshot:

RedComet
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2007, 09:19:46 pm »

Put the cursor over each tile in one row and write down the tile numbers. Then open up the hex editor and search for the numbers you wrote down.
Naruto
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2007, 09:42:51 pm »

Quote from: RedComet on July 19, 2007, 09:19:46 pm
Put the cursor over each tile in one row and write down the tile numbers. Then open up the hex editor and search for the numbers you wrote down.

To an 'E' or to an 'O' at the end ? If so, then what do I do next?
RedComet
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2007, 11:13:24 pm »

Quote from: Naruto on July 19, 2007, 09:42:51 pm
Quote from: RedComet on July 19, 2007, 09:19:46 pm
Put the cursor over each tile in one row and write down the tile numbers. Then open up the hex editor and search for the numbers you wrote down.

To an 'E' or to an 'O' at the end ? If so, then what do I do next?

What? :huh:
Jedi QuestMaster
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2007, 12:12:10 am »

Basically the way they appear on the screen.  Since that 'O' (or 'E' now) is reused on the screen, you'll have a repeat in the tiles.

Let me help: The top row of the title looks like this:

00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 04 05 06 43 44 45 46 47 48 46? 4A 4B

Sorry to say this, but the top row of tiles I said earlier aren't in that tileset. Cry But I'm sure you'll be able to find a way to squeeze in that 'O' somehow. Wink
Naruto
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2007, 12:37:51 am »

Quote from: RedComet on July 19, 2007, 11:13:24 pm
Quote from: Naruto on July 19, 2007, 09:42:51 pm
Quote from: RedComet on July 19, 2007, 09:19:46 pm
Put the cursor over each tile in one row and write down the tile numbers. Then open up the hex editor and search for the numbers you wrote down.

To an 'E' or to an 'O' at the end ? If so, then what do I do next?

What? :huh:

Never mind.  Grin

Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on July 20, 2007, 12:12:10 am
Basically the way they appear on the screen.  Since that 'O' (or 'E' now) is reused on the screen, you'll have a repeat in the tiles.

Let me help: The top row of the title looks like this:

00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 04 05 06 43 44 45 46 47 48 46? 4A 4B

Sorry to say this, but the top row of tiles I said earlier aren't in that tileset. Cry But I'm sure you'll be able to find a way to squeeze in that 'O' somehow. Wink

Then I am stuck ?  Cry That's mean make a title screen from scratch instead ? :happy:
Jedi QuestMaster
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2007, 01:58:18 am »

What does that kana say? "That's paradise" ? Tongue Do you think you need that?

Edit: Maybe you can find a way to reuse the 'A' ? Cheesy
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