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southark2
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« on: April 13, 2007, 04:36:44 pm »

Do this but I have to cause I do this stuff for learning about the compatibility of nes mappers,
I got lucky on the luckiest day of the year today Friday the 13 of April,
And remappered (Holy Diver Japan) from mapper 78 to mapper 2, it looks best when played with fce ultra or equivalent,
Anything else shows on screen garbage, don't play it with nesticle either.

I want to know if I messed it up by remappering it to mapper 2 .
Here's the patch I would explain more, But it's storming it's ass off over here so I got to turn this thing off.
edit  (link to patch removed)
« Last Edit: April 15, 2007, 01:06:57 pm by Me_Dave »
Disch
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2007, 07:16:35 pm »

Properties of Mapper 78:
- 16k PRG swapping @ $8000
- 8k CHR swapping
- Mirroring control (either H/V or 1-screen -- varies from game to game -- this is one of those sloppy iNES numbers where incompatible mappers share the same mapper number)

Properties of mapper 2:
- 16k PRG swapping @ $8000


Mapper 2 does not have CHR swapping -- and generally only has CHR-RAM.  Holy Diver uses CHR-ROM -- so it totally will not work with Mapper 2.  Plus there's a lack of mirroring control on mapper 2.

-- These mappers are incompatible --

The only thing that will work is the PRG because they swap the same way (and with the same bits of the same reg).  So games will run -- but they will be scrambled graphically.


If FCEU is running this hack -- it might be "autocorrecting" the header back to mapper 78 before it actually emulates it.  There is no way Holy Diver will run properly on mapper 2.


May I ask why you even need to change the mapper?  I mean if you don't even understand what the mapper does -- how is changing it of any benefit to you?


EDIT

also....

Quote from: Me_Dave on April 13, 2007, 04:36:44 pm
it looks best when played with fce ultra or equivalent,
Anything else shows on screen garbage

When most emus screw your hack up -- that's usually a pretty good indication that your hack isn't quite right.

« Last Edit: April 13, 2007, 07:33:17 pm by Disch »
southark2
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2007, 01:05:13 pm »

Well I wasn't planing on change the mapper to mapper 2 or any other mapper,
This just happend so afterwards I was wondering if it was messed up.
Your probably right fce ultra must correct it internally or something as it won't work with any other emulators correctly.
I will get rid of the patch asap as it is corrupted I would have done this sooner,
But I have been tied up my main computer crashed yesterday and I haven't got it going again yet.
Other then that I Think I am going to give up on changing nes mappers cause it's mostly a waist of time for me,
All though it does keep me going when I am bored,
And thats how I ended up doing this was because I got bored,
And pressed the wrong key while I was messing around with holy diver.
Sorry I got in over my head on this one.
Also thanks for letting me know the facts about it.
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