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Hucz
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« on: December 13, 2006, 08:48:49 pm »

OK, so I want to start hacking roms. So the first thing I did was get the rom I want to hack, which happens to be "Dragon Ball Z - Super Saiya-jin Densetsu" for the SNES. I have patched it with an English translation I obtained from here ---> Dragon Ball Arena - SNES Roms.

So, I read a walkthrough on how to hack/translate text in a rom.

The walkthrough I used is here ---> Text Hacking / Translation Tutorial

I followed the instructions exactly, and when it mentions to go ahead myself and hack the rom I am using, I run into a few problems. I used "Relative Search" and nothing came up. I tried a lot of examples, and still nothing. I also read that some roms needed to be "dissassembled" and I do not know what that means, and what I am supposed to do. Also, I read somewhere that SNES roms can either be "LoROM" or "HiROM", but again, I have no idea what that means.

Is there a way someone can either explain to me what I need to do, or what I am doing wrong? Or maybe, just upload the table for this game, or suggest anything.

Thanks.

-Mason
RedComet
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2006, 09:09:08 pm »

I'm pretty sure that particular game is compressed. Or I think it is. It's been a while since I looked at it.

I'm not quite sure what to tell you, really. Check our documents archive and teh Getting Started section. If nothing there helps, you might give a simpler game a try.
MegamanX
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2006, 09:26:27 pm »

Try doing a relative search with damn near any NES game.  You'll get results easier that way.

Is it still common to edge new people towards NES stuff right at the start?
ChimuKun
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2006, 12:18:04 am »

I dunno. One thing's for sure, pick a light game that's not cram full of text. Or even other stuff. unused parts of a rom are a godsend I tell you. Which is something Bikkuriman World, the game I'm translating, doesn't have.

But again, if you're just doing a random text hack and not actually translating it, It's easy to fit within the space provided. Just don't pick a compressed game.

Trust me, dude, if you can't get ANY hits at a relative search for 'Goku' in that rom, it's compressed.

(Though I'd go with a longer name, like Vegeta, in order to prevent thousands of false matches.)
DaMarsMan
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2006, 02:26:37 am »

Well, if you can find your graphics for the text you can usually compile a table without ever using relative searching. Not all games are like this but 99% are. Then you have weird ones like dual orb that are completely out of order. So the uppermost left tile would be 00 and it would count 1 in hex for every tile after it. If you can't find graphics or relative searching isn't working then you can do a trace. When you do a trace you can ALWAYS find everything. It just takes someone who is experienced and knows how to track things down. If you have no luck with any of these methods keep posting till someone helps or just switch to a different game.
Hucz
Guest
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2006, 02:49:36 am »

OK, thanks guys, I'll look into a few things...

-Mason
Hucz
Guest
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2006, 10:41:21 pm »

Yeah, still nothing...

I need some way to decompress the rom or decompile it to do a Relative Search on it.

-Mason
Hucz
Guest
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2006, 07:10:28 pm »

Can anyone help?

-Mason
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