This data was recovered from a point in the game where the Exorcist-class unit Presance leveled from 17 to 18.  His Level 17 stats (HP/MP/Str/Int/Agi/Dex/Vit/Men) were 191/148/104/157/100/115/117/121, while his level 18 stats were 197/154/106/166/103/119/122/128.  In hex, these are c5/9a/6a/a6/67/77/7A/80 (these values crop up in the spoiler block below).  Version of the game was 1.2, English patch applied (Aeon Genesis team).


What I'm trying to discover is the location of the character class data in the ROM, and I think that this dump could be used to that effect.  However, I am unfamiliar with ASM or opcodes, so I was wondering if someone else who happens to be familiar with the game (or not, really don't care at this point) would mind taking a little look at it and leaving some tips or comments.  Any help you guys could provide will be greatly appreciated.

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March 01, 2011, 09:34:47 pm - (Auto Merged - Double Posts are not allowed before 7 days.)

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*Sigh* Well, it seems like everybody's growth parameters are, sadly, in arrays separated by stat instead of class (ugh, thanks to Deathlike for the tip).  I'll post some of the ROM locations later, apologies for the double post (please don't hesitate to contribute whatever you wish to the thread, still need a LOT of help).

I believe there's a guide on Gamefaqs that can be a reference to finding the data... I'm sure it still applies to this version anyways.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/snes/588770-tactics-ogre/faqs/32399

OK, so it's been awhile, I found -quite a bit- of stuff regarding character data (if anyone needs it just let me know).   But I've come across a stumbling block and I need help getting over it.

Some of the character classes have special little 'extras' attached to them.  For any who've played the game before, these include things like the Terror Knight's Fear effect, the Beast Tamer's Beast Support, and the Gunner's Gunnery, to name a few.  I think the full list is as follows:

Fear (Terror Knight, Tiamat, a fair number of creatures in Hell Gate, any equipment from the Grim set)
Beast Support (Beast Tamer, Beast Master, an Aileron feater)
Dragon Support (Dragon Tamer, a Dragos stone)
Golem Support (Warlock, a WordRock item)
Anti-Dragon (Dragoon, numerous pieces of equipment)
Gunnery (Gunner)
Acrobatics (Ninja, Dark Stalker)
Undeath (Ghost, Skeleton, Zombie, Death creatures)

This looks like it might follow a '01 02 04 08 10 20 40 80' pattern, taking up one byte per character class which should be located in a table/array somewhere in the ROM.  Or, maybe there's some ASM routines that could easily be traced if it was something that was only 'active' during a battle.  Shouldn't be that bad...

Man, I cannot find this crap -anywhere-.  First thing I do is try to look for a table/array in the ROM.  The problem here is, I really don't know how the data is formatted (is it, in fact, the aforementioned pattern, or a sequence of values that I have no information on, etc.), so I've tried a bunch of different searches w/a hex editor.  Nada. 

Then I try looking for this info in the RAM during a battle sequence.  What happened was that I eventually changed the current in-battle class ($7e17af) -without- changing anything else, and got the special quality to appear (in case Acrobatics).  Nothing else was changed (including the movement type, it was odd seeing a character with the 'Slow' movement type suddenly leaping down 4 squares), did a full RAM comparison and didn't get any hits, which tells me that these qualities are, in fact, not part of a battle subroutine and should probably be in an array somewhere in the ROM (which...I didn't find, as stated before), or maybe a branch instruction if the accumulator/x/y/whatever currently equals the correct class ID, -I DUNNO-.

I really need some advice for locating this data, if not outright helping me find it.  Anyone who can assist, I'd greatly appreciate it.  If you need clarification, post the question here and I'll try my best to answer it.

I should probably just upload the .tbl file I've been using to keep track, but I dunno if hex editors other than GoldFinger (the one I'm using atm) can read it.

These are ROM offsets for the starting points of each section (all in hex), pretty sure it's headerless (latest ROM revision, has Lakmir's translation patch applied to it):

42703 - Character Sprite pointers
429e3 - Character Name pointers
42ad2 - Job IDs
42bc2 - Starting Elements
42cb0 - Starting Alignments
42dbf - Number of Magic Slots
42ead - Starting Level
42f9b - Starting HP
430bb - HP Growth
4314b - Starting MP
4326b - MP Growth
432fb - Starting Strength
4338b - Strength Growth
4341b - Starting Vitality
434ab - Vitality Growth
4353b - Starting Intelligence
435cb - Intelligence Growth
4365b - Starting Mentality
436eb - Mentality Growth
4377b - Starting Agility
4380b - Agility Growth
4389b - Starting Dexterity
4392b - Dexterity Growth
43a4c - Class Weight Penalties
43add - Physical Resistance
43b6e - Air Resistance
43bff - Fire Resistance
43c90 - Earth Resistance
43d21 - Water Resistance
43db2 - Virtue Resistance
43e43 - Bane Resistance
43ef4 - Attack+ Capability
440b1 - Species Table
441a1 - Basic Indirect Attack Type
442b0 - Magic Set that can be equipped
443a0 - Class Special Attacks (Slot 1)
4448f - Class Special Attacks (Slot 2)
4457e - Class Special Attacks (Slot 3)
4466d - Class Special Attacks (Slot 4)
4475b - Movement Types
44849 - Movement Rates
44937 - Starting Loyalties
44a26 - Weather Tolerance
451da - Item Types
452ca - Item Elements
453ba - Weapon Handedness
454aa - Item Equip Slot Locations (Finger, Head, etc.)
45655 - Item Weights
4572e - Item Strength Modifiers (Atk. Power)
4580e - Item Intelligence Modifiers
458ee - Item Agility Modifiers
459ce - Item Dexterity Modifiers
45aae - Item Vitality Modifiers
45b8e - Item Mentality Modifiers
45c6e - Item Luck Modifiers
45d4e - Item Physical Resistance (Def. Power) (signed)
45e2e - Item Air Resistance (signed)
45f0e - Item Fire Resistance (signed)
45fee - Item Earth Resistance (signed)
460ce - Item Water Resistance (signed)
461ae - Item Virtue Resistance (signed)
4628e - Item Bane Resistance (signed)
4646f - Item Prices (multiplied by 10 in-game)
46612 - Item Strength Raise at Level Up
466e4 - Item Intelligence Raise at Level Up
467b4 - Item Agility Raise at Level Up
46884 - Item Dexterity Raise at Level Up
46956 - Item Vitality Raise at Level Up
46a26 - Item Mentality Raise at Level Up
46af6 - Item Luck Raise at Level Up
46bc6 - Item Special Effects (Stuns on hit, Anti-Dragon, etc.)
46cb6 - Item Special Skills (used in the Item menu)
46d86 - Item Status Guards (immunity to petrification, etc.)
46e76 - Item Passive Effects (wearer can fly, HP regen, etc.)
47047 - Spell MP cost/Targeting Information
47172 - Spell Elements
47208 - Spell Ranges
4732f - Spell Prices (multiplied by 10 in-game)
47431 - Spell Set Modifiers
ea0dc - Class Grids (determines what you can change into)
ebba7 - Denim's Base Class
ebca1 - Denim's Initial Equipment (Slot 1)
ebcac - Denim's Initial Equipment (Slot 2)
ebcb7 - Denim's Initial Equipment (Slot 3)
ebcc2 - Denim's Initial Equipment (Slot 4)
ebc94 - Denim's Initial Spells (doesn't insert into Magic menu, need to use a JMP routine to get anything out of it)
ed61e - Item Shop pointers/data
ed6d9 - Magic Shop pointers/data

That's it so far, I dunno where the Item Sprite pointers/palettes are, and I don't know where those god damn character passives are (the Fear/Beast Support stuff).  Anyone out there think of anything?

Oooh, thanks for the link.  So that's where the Chaos Frames are in the RAM.


Sadly no data regarding character passives >_<

I and everyone else here at RHDN would appreciate it muchly if you posted this information on the Data Crystal.

Found something new recently: the Summon-E command (which was originally thought to not work unless the unit was AI-controlled) is actually dependent on the current battlemap.  The user of the technique is irrelevant, if -anyone- uses Summon-E in Heigm's interior, you'll get an Angel Knight that is on the enemy's side.  It also doesn't matter if it's a story battle or a random one; even in Training mode, if you use Summon-E on Gruborza Plains, you'll get Ghosts and Skeletons, while if you use it at Fort Bodo (no Summoners ever go there in the original storyline) it'll glitch.

Still trying to figure out how to manipulate this (I did at least find where the game stores 'enemy battle party sizes', it's at $059f0f).  Man, I wish this had the same following FFT does ;_;