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ded302
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« on: December 15, 2010, 10:44:20 am »

I've been working on this game called Juvei Quest. When I used KingMikes rom expander to expand the prg-rom, the roms size went from 512 to 768 kbs. I also found out the prg-rom bank size is 16kbs. If the items I want to relocate are
in bank 0x19 and if Mapper 19 uses mirroring, how would I find out the bank number?
KingMike
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 11:37:08 am »

Namcot-106 (mapper 19) banks are 8KB in size ($8000, $A000, $C000 are swappable, swap them by writing to $E000, $E800, $F000 respectively).
I forget what it was in Bakabon, but in Kaiju Monogatari, it was $70+bank. To find what the game is using, just set a breakpoint for the bankswap registers in FCEUX.
The bank value written was ANDed by the last bank value. For example, Kaiju had 128KB PRG, so the last bank was $0F, so like if the game wrote $78 to the register, it'd be $78 AND $0F = $08. Which is why I had to expand at the beginning (256KB = 32 banks), because $78 AND $1F = $18, so I'd want the original bank $08 to become expanded bank $18.
I don't know if Juvei Quest uses the Namcot-106 built-in RAM for battery-backup purposes like Kaiju did, or if it used normal SRAM ($6000-7FFF). One site I looked at says it does use normal SRAM.
(Namcot-106 chip's RAM: $F800 is used to select the RAM address. Low 7 bits select the address (total 128 bytes), high bit chooses to disable (0) /enable (1) auto-increment upon read/write. Read/write $4800 to access RAM.)
ded302
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 12:33:44 pm »

I'll read your advice and see what I can do.
aishsha
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 09:23:48 am »

I did some work on this one as one of my future projects... As I remember, the banks there are placed in the same way as in Dream Master, they are calculated via a rather complicated formula and go in reverse order. First - new banks, then - the old ones in an expanded rom.
ded302
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 12:08:03 pm »

With Juvei Quest, I found out how to expand the item names, how to expand the windows by finding the code that loads the sizes, and how to edit the items that appear in the shops.
Bregalad
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2010, 06:58:24 am »

I'm pretty sure it's a good idea to avoid non-power of two PRG sizes.
In other words, if you increase PRG ROM's size, double it.
KingMike
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2010, 12:40:15 pm »

If the game is using 256KB PRG + 256KB CHR, then a 768KB expansion (512 + 256) is fine.
Bregalad
Guest
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2010, 09:17:41 am »

Oh yeah of course that is right. I didn't know the game used Character ROM, as not all NES games use that.
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