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Doctor Bunsen
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« on: January 30, 2008, 05:14:34 pm »

Basically what I want to do is have the story about Rosa and Rydia instead of Cecil and Kain.

I want Rosa to be the Dark Knight who becomes a Paladin with her normal sprite, but with all of Cecil's commands and stats.  She and Dragoon Rydia, who would have all of Kain's commands and stats, would attack Kain the Summoner's mother in the village of the Mist at the beginning of the game.  Cecil would be the White Wizard and use his Paladin sprite the whole game, but he would have Rosa's commands and stats.

I guess you would just have to trade the sprites/portraits and change all the pronouns.  How difficult would it be to do this?
Deathlike2
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2008, 05:58:11 pm »

It sounds like quite a bit of work to be done... I don't believe what you're looking to do is complex.. just a lot of work to be done...
Numonohi_Boi
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2008, 06:58:33 pm »

the game wouldn't really be much different at all though if you just did a sprite and name swap.
Doctor Bunsen
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 12:40:03 am »

The point is that the women would take the fighter roles and the men would take the damsel in distress roles.  I am hoping to do research on gaming and gender.  I want to see if changing the genders would change people's opinions of the game.
JCE3000GT
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 12:44:34 am »

Quote from: Doctor Bunsen on January 31, 2008, 12:40:03 am
The point is that the women would take the fighter roles and the men would take the damsel in distress roles.  I am hoping to do research on gaming and gender.  I want to see if changing the genders would change people's opinions of the game.

Yes, and no, and yes.

If all you are doing is a graphic and name swap along with some rudimentary text alterations to work with the reversed roles that is easy stuff.  Even adding new dialogue and even events are definately doable.  I'd first play around with FF4/FF2us and learn as much as you can about its data before starting the actual project. Here is some good information and a good place to get reletively immediate answers from some FF4 pros.
Doctor Bunsen
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 02:40:06 am »

Thank you.  This would be more of a pilot study really since I realize that hacking a game would be illegal and thus the research would not be publishable.
Numonohi_Boi
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2008, 03:12:09 am »

take a look around.
FinalMinuet
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2008, 01:34:14 pm »

You can "publish" it via your own personal webpage if you want, or you can find some sort of a community to distribute the document to. I'm sure someone out there would be interested. Yeah, the legality of ROM hacking is a fuzzy gray area, but you aren't releasing any illegal material.
Next gen Cowboy
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2008, 06:32:38 pm »

A community of people willing to accept a hack...I have never heard of such a thing!

 :police:
Doctor Bunsen
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2008, 01:49:27 am »

Quote from: FinalMinuet on January 31, 2008, 01:34:14 pm
You can "publish" it via your own personal webpage if you want, or you can find some sort of a community to distribute the document to. I'm sure someone out there would be interested. Yeah, the legality of ROM hacking is a fuzzy gray area, but you aren't releasing any illegal material.
The problem is, I highly doubt my university's ethics board would approve research using illegal material and I highly doubt Square-Enix would give me permission to hack their game for my research even if the findings could be useful for their design and marketing departments.

I just wanted to know if it was easy to do and how long it would take to switch the roles.  If FF4 could be easily hacked for a pilot study and I found anything interesting, I would then make my own short game with RPGmaker and re-do the experiment using legal material.
Moulinoski
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2008, 07:53:12 am »

Quote from: Doctor Bunsen on February 01, 2008, 01:49:27 am
I would then make my own short game with RPGmaker and re-do the experiment using legal material.

Good Luck. :/ RpgMaker is pretty (very) limiting once you get used to any other coding environment.
Next gen Cowboy
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2008, 08:00:07 am »

I highly doubt Square-Enix cares.
FinalMinuet
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2008, 08:56:18 am »

Quote from: Doctor Bunsen on February 01, 2008, 01:49:27 am
The problem is, I highly doubt my university's ethics board would approve research using illegal material and I highly doubt Square-Enix would give me permission to hack their game for my research even if the findings could be useful for their design and marketing departments.
If this is for a university-funded study and not personal research, then yes, you're right in saying that your research would not be approved. Besides, something tells me this study won't do so well in the experimenting environment. Are you going to make everyone play the whole game through? What if they've already played it? What if they already don't like the game? There are a lot of other factors to consider. You may be better off using RPG Maker and designing the game around specific elements that you're trying to research.

Like Next gen Cowboy said, Square-Enix won't care and definitely wouldn't waste any money trying to stop you. They'll only notice if you start making money off of this.
Gemini
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2008, 08:56:23 am »

Quote from: Doctor Bunsen on February 01, 2008, 01:49:27 am
If FF4 could be easily hacked for a pilot study and I found anything interesting, I would then make my own short game with RPGmaker and re-do the experiment using legal material.
I doubt that would be less illegal.
Doctor Bunsen
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2008, 02:28:46 pm »

How is RPG Maker illegal?

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Are you going to make everyone play the whole game through? What if they've already played it? What if they already don't like the game? There are a lot of other factors to consider.
I have considered all of those factors.

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You may be better off using RPG Maker and designing the game around specific elements that you're trying to research.
I think that might be best.  I wasn't sure if it would be easy to hack the game or not.  I still think it would be very interesting to see the roles switched though.
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